Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates

Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by headmelted on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @03:56PM (#30091712)

Not disagreeing with this (although my understanding is that there have been studies that show vaccination has been more effective), but how would you seperate the unvaccinated / previously-infected-and-recovered cohorts?

Even by reconciling PCR testing data (which I imagine is incredibly patchy at best), you still would only know historically how many people tested positive (ignoring what is in all likelihood a majority of the cases that never got tested) and be able to reconcile it against numbers of vaccinated, which tells you nothing useful without being able to intersect the two sets (which you can’t do without uniquely identifying every PCR test and matching it to an individual universally).

i.e. the better data you would need doesn’t exist.

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Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by dexen on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @04:00PM (#30091758)

There's a recent (January 19, 2022) CDC publications with numbers on exactly that. Forbes provides a brief overview: "CDC: Prior Covid Infection Offered More Protection Against Delta Than Vaccines — But Both Together Did Best"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/01/19/cdc-prior-c...

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Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by wongarsu on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @04:14PM (#30091962)

If that data doesn't exist then that's just because it isn't tracked. Here in Germany if you test positive on a PCR test you have to quarantine for 14 days, then you get a proof of recovery which for 6 months you can use like a proof of vaccination (which you need for non-essential shops, gyms, etc when the 7-day incidence is too high, like right now). As a result, tracking numbers for the "recovered" cohort isn't a problem. Obviously the "unvaccinated" group will always contains some unknown number of recovered people we don't know about, but at large enough effect sizes that isn't a problem.

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Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by teh_infallible on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @04:09PM (#30091892)

Currently, people who only got one shot or got their second one less than two weeks ago are being counted as “unvaccinated” which seems disingenuous at best.

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