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Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by jatone on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @01:42PM (#30089829)
We already have discrimination in medical care its called 'triage', unfortunately it doesn't involved removing care once granted.

We also charge smokers more for health care due to the burden they put on the system, yet another form of discrimination.

You're also making the naive mistake of relating a stable system (smokers with health issues) with an unstable system (covid patients). These two types of systems have VERY different impacts on the medical infrastructure.

QED: no one is opening any flood gates. we've had this shit in place for over a century. we use to let you just die at home when you caught the plague.

Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by rglullis on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @01:51PM (#30089975)
Then go charge more for those who are at risk and reject the recommendation for vaccine. I'd argue that would be a lot more effective (and fair) to get people to vaccinate then any of the current sociopolitical pressure and ostracization.
Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by dham on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @02:19PM (#30090360)
But we could already charge more for certain things like being overweight and cover this issue anyway. IMO if your BMI is over a certain amount you should probably be required to take a Covid vaccine, but not everyone.
Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by d12345m on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @02:14PM (#30090297)
I’ve wondered why increased healthcare premiums for unvaccinated persons isn’t a tool we’re using.

I’m assuming it’s a bad idea for reasons that I haven’t thought through; I’d love to hear them from anyone who has spent time on the issue.

Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by abduhl on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @02:24PM (#30090424)
They're illegal because of Obamacare, I believe. My understanding is that smoking is the only pre-existing medical condition that can be used to discriminate.
Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by rhino369 on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @02:58PM (#30090851)
>We already have discrimination in medical care its called 'triage', unfortunately it doesn't involved removing care once granted.

Based on seriousness of the case, not really on whether it was preventable in the first place. For extremely limited resources like organs there is consideration of future risks, but that isn't really the same thing.

>We also charge smokers more for health care due to the burden they put on the system, yet another form of discrimination.

So let insurance adjusters charge different rates for vax/unvac'd people covered by insurance like they do for smokers.

Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by jatone on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @03:47PM (#30091553)
> Based on seriousness of the case,....

incorrect its based on likely hood of survival. no point in wasting resources on a soon to be dead individual when you can save someone who actually has a chance.

Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by nradov on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @04:43PM (#30092359)
The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) doesn't allow medical insurers to set premiums based on vaccination status.