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Re:Apple is reportedly poaching Xbox engineers to make their... by csilverman on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @12:34AM (#30082157)
I don't see Apple coming out with a whole new device either. They don't have the kind of reputation in the gaming world that Microsoft or Sony has; going head-to-head with those guys now, with an unproven platform, would probably end in failure and damage any future attempts at inroads into the industry.

The other thing is that there would very likely be some awkward overlap between an Apple Console and an Apple TV, especially considering Apple's consistency in product design. Having two little black boxes on the market, both of which handle media and neither of which is a computer, would be confusing for consumers.

Which doesn't mean Apple isn't interested in gaming. I think they are, a lot. I'd say a more likely scenario is that Apple starts quietly—or not so quietly—beefing up its Apple TV line into something that ultimately turns into a console. Bolster their Metal API, ship an Apple TV with an M5 (or whatever they call 2025/6's version of Apple Silicon), line up some big-name titles that you can rent/buy/stream through the device, and I think they’d be a force to be reckoned with.

Re:Apple is reportedly poaching Xbox engineers to make their... by alsaaro on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @01:43AM (#30082535)
Apple is already in the gaming industry with a proven platform. If Apple leverages their iDevice marketspace dominance, I don't see how they could end in failure.

Imagine an eGPU that is compatible with any Mac/iDevice, just plug and play.

About a week ago I predicted that Apple would release a console, and that the Activision/Microsoft merger was not as much as a move to counter Sony's dominance, but as a moat against Apple.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29985974

Re:Apple is reportedly poaching Xbox engineers to make their... by salamandersauce on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @06:09AM (#30084100)
An Xbox Series X or PS5 is $500. Comes with everything you need to play except a TV. A Series S or Switch is $300. A Mac/iDevice + eGPU + controller is not going to cost less than PS5 and especially not less than a Switch or Series S.

Apple positions themselves as a premium brand with a premium price which runs completely counter to the console model of subsidized hardware. It just doesn't make any sense for them to enter the console marketplace. Especially when the "big" games on Apple's platforms are essentially all Gatcha titles that are ALSO on Android. Sure the Apple console has a better looking version of Raid Shadow Legends but the Samsung Galaxy Player is a third the cost and the Chinese one from some brand you've never heard of is a fifth.

Re:Apple is reportedly poaching Xbox engineers to make their... by jolux on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @12:44AM (#30082217)
Obviously if they come out with a console they won't be selling the Apple TV anymore, except maybe as a low-end option.
Re:Apple is reportedly poaching Xbox engineers to make their... by ahefner on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @01:26AM (#30082432)
Contrasting the tiny fanless AppleTV boxes with the comically over-sized messes that are the most recent console generation, these products are a galaxy apart.
Re:Apple is reportedly poaching Xbox engineers to make their... by smoldesu on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @01:31AM (#30082461)
The newest, highest-end AppleTV on the market has less than half the raw GPU compute of an Xbox Series X, so... I guess I'm not all that surprised?