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Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by dustintrex on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @12:24AM (#30082094)
Many attractions in Thailand have dual pricing, with foreigner pricing in Arabic numerals (100 baht) and local pricing in Thai numerals (๒๐ บาท). The price differential is often 5x or more.
Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by biztos on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @12:39AM (#30082187)
I was visiting some temples in Bangkok recently and was amused to find there was no dual pricing; rather, there was an admission charge for foreigners and no charge for Thais.

(I don’t mind this system actually, but if I were paying taxes in Thailand and still had to pay foreigner entry fees everywhere it might bug me.)

Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by MandieD on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @02:45AM (#30082881)
The train between Machu Picchu (Aguas Calientes) and Cusco had three classes, the lowest of which was restricted to Peruvian citizens and residents. To be clear, Peruvians were free to use the second and first classes if they were willing to pay, too, but only they were allowed to use the very cheap third class. If I recall correctly, the second class one-way was about US$35. It struck me as being a bit fancier (and unnecessarily so) than second class in a DB (Germany) Intercity Express.

My aunt and uncle took the first class as part of their far more expensive Peru tour, and were not exposed to the direct cost, but judging by the pictures, it was luxurious.

Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by bregma on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @07:02AM (#30084512)
I knew I was being milked everywhere in Peru. It didn't bother me because extortionate prices in Peru are still cheaper than prices in my home country.

The only exception was where people insisted on being paid in American dollars. I'm not American so it never occurred to me to buy and bring American dollars to any country outside of the USA. We treat American tourists with a certain amount of eyerolling when they try to use their money in my country, but I have learned my lesson that it is a good idea to have an emergency stash of the currency of dishonesty when travelling abroad.

Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by tristor on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @11:37AM (#30087688)
> good idea to have an emergency stash of the currency of dishonesty when travelling abroad

I recommend that you do some research about the economics of any country you visit. As you've already somewhat discovered, many places in Central America and South America will actually prefer payment in US dollars because the official government exchange rates from their local currency to dollars is extortionately unfair and not accurate to ForEx markets, this combined with high rates of inflation for the local currency and regular currency "resets" mean that people don't want to have their savings denominated in the local currency.

I don't know why you consider dollars to be the "currency of dishonesty", but all throughout the Americas, dollars are generally the highest valued currency because the US dominates economics and trade relations in the region. I imagine the same may be true in other parts of the world but they might preference other currencies rather than dollars (Ex: I found in some parts of Eastern Europe and Central Asia that Euros were accepted in preference over local currency).

Any time you travel to a new country, do your research in advance.

Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by bregma on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @01:49PM (#30089949)
> I don't know why you consider dollars to be the "currency of dishonesty"

I was not trying to imply Americans are dishonest. I was trying to imply that insisting on the use of foreign currency like USD as the sole medium of exchange, or any other black market activity if it comes to that, is a dishonest way to make a living.

And sure, I understand why the black market exists from a socioeconomic point of view. I have learned my lesson about travelling in less advantaged countries. I witnessed stuff in Peru that would make suburban Karen's head explode with apoplexy, and it was just considered normal and expected stuff there.

Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by tristor on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @03:55PM (#30091688)
> I witnessed stuff in Peru that would make suburban Karen's head explode with apoplexy, and it was just considered normal and expected stuff there.

Agreed on that wholeheartedly. Visiting Peru was an interesting experience for me as well, and one that was deeply sad in many ways. There's such a visibily stark wealth inequality in Lima that's immediately obvious as soon as you deplane that is usually hidden away in other parts of the world. Lima is an amazing world-class food city, but most of that is found within Miraflores district which is a far cry from the conditions of most of the rest of the city or in the pueblo jovenes on the outskirts of town in the hills. The same is found in other parts of Peru as well, and in a way I am very happy for it because it made obvious to me things I had been able to avoid or put out of my mind in my travels elsewhere and made me more aware of how different societies exploit people and the role of the West in creating and enabling those conditions, my own role as a traveler included.

Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by jeromegv on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @09:22AM (#30085704)
Correct, I'm Canadian but when travelling anywhere out of the western world, stashing a few USD bills will be helpful in many ways.
Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by thriftwy on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @03:27AM (#30083108)
It was more like $90 per person for one-way, 1.5 hour ride, of course it's fancy for that kind of cash. I guess all Machu Picchu prices were subject to 10% YoY growth pre-COVID since, you know, they don't make them anymore.
Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by throwaway2037 on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @11:37AM (#30087697)
In Java, Indonesia, it is similar for Borobudur (massive Buddhist temple) and Prambanam (massive Hindu temple). Since they are both UNESCO heritage sites that have a small army of well-paid local and foreign experts constantly improving the sites, I do not mind to pay 10x or 20x compared to locals. The same was similar for temples in Siem Reap, Cambodia (Ankor Wat and friends). I have heard about some "elite level" Indian religious sites than do similar, but will offer local rates for people who carry an OCI card (Overseas Citizen of India card).
Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by saiya-jin on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @04:33AM (#30083495)
Same was for Taj Mahal some... 13 years ago. Foreigner price (apart from few neighboring countries) was at least 10-20x the price of local one. Still, well worth seeing that marvel
Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by throwaway2037 on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @11:42AM (#30087782)
Zero trolling: If locals pay 1 EUR and you and me paid 10 or 20 EU, is it so bad? I am can accept when the UNESCO world heritage site is top notch. Yes, 20 EUR is expensive, but so is the entrance fee for the Vatican Museum or Le Louvre (Paris). Real Question: Does Italy or France have a programme to allow low income students to enter these world class museums cheaply? It would be great if someone can comment about it!
Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by saiya-jin on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @02:36PM (#30090558)
Of course they have it, whole western (or more probably whole) Europe has significant discount for students and I think elderly too, for any kind of tourist attraction. But not 10 or 20x, more like 20-50% of full ticket.
Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by zem on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @03:41AM (#30083199)
they are very up-front about that, though, and my thai friends told me it's because their taxes support the attractions, which seemed perfectly fair to me.
Re:Agatha Christie could afford a maid and a nanny but not a... by Symbiote on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @07:29AM (#30084702)
Last time I was in one of the large, free museums in London (British Museum, Natural History Museum, Science Musem etc), a tourist asked me to read out / read simpler the words shown above the donation box. He then put £30 in.

I was surprised, as I'd never thought to donate to these museums. He pointed out that he didn't pay tax in Britain, and entry tickets to a similar museum at home would be around £30.