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Re:Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11... by kristopolous on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @12:02AM (#30081942)
Two things.

The person walks away after this $600 poorer. We've found ways to do things of arguably far less social value then say, a new medical discovery, such as stand up comedy or say a club dj without them having to fork over $600 to do what they're being advertised for.

In fact, they actually get paid.

Second, the enterprise for expanding human knowledge shouldn't come with a door fee, full stop. If we want to progress the sciences we should find out how to collectively pay for it without charging amounts to all involved that they cannot afford.

If we want, say, 1,000 Einsteins as Jeff Bezos believe we should be aiming for, we should try funding the process and not sticker shock it at every step.

Stagnation is always a structural problem. This is so fixable if we actually exercise the will to do it

Re:Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11... by dash2 on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @06:01AM (#30084036)
It’s not a good analogy. Gigs and stand-up comedy have big audiences. Academic conferences don’t. Hiring a venue, paying for dinner, these things have cost. $600 isn’t unreasonable. By contrast $12,000 to publish a PDF on a website is criminal.
Re:Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11... by netr0ute on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @09:47AM (#30086037)
> Academic conferences don’t.

Untrue, as shown by there being a conference in the first place.

Re:Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11... by kristopolous on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @08:41PM (#30094989)
Not only but there's plenty of 20 seat comedy nights and tiny drive bars where the performers gets paid.

This isn't a necessary artifact of a structural reality. It's a political choice that we can exercise the freedom to change.

Re:Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11... by dash2 on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @11:27PM (#30096215)
Some conferences are big. Many are 20 people.