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Re:Are popular toxicity models simply profanity detectors? by teakettle42 on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @09:55AM (#30072404)
The happy medium, such as it is, is to not try to police “toxicity” in the first place.

If you want to be a global publisher of your opinions, you’re going to receive a global response, from people across the political and social gamut — the larger your audience, and the more political/ideological your speech, the more substantial a response.

My dictionary’s definition of “Faustian” has this usage example:

> Modern celebrities enter into a Faustian pact with the general public.

What people seem to want is the ability to enforce a one-sided bargain with the public, under which their own toxicity, opinions, and any public affirmations should never be censored, as long as their opinions are the politically correct ones.

Re:Are popular toxicity models simply profanity detectors? by mavhc on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @11:06AM (#30073418)
What happens when the trolls create millions of accounts to overwhelm the 90% people with good intentions?
Re:Are popular toxicity models simply profanity detectors? by pydry on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @11:11AM (#30073494)
>The happy medium, such as it is, is to not try to police “toxicity” in the first place.

So, give hard core racists the benefit of the doubt when they wolf whistle each other?

Can't see any historical precedent for that going disastrously wrong.

>What people seem to want is ... their own toxicity, opinions, and any public affirmations should never be censored

Some people are hypocrites. News at 11.

Some people also want anti-han Chinese racism to be treated equivalently to anti-Uyghur racism because they choose to be blind to the inherent power differential.

I remember reading a story of the Hutus and the Tutsis. The genocide began with the radio - shows that very deliberate but cautious (& deniable) dehumanization of the other that ramped up over time. Nobody policed these deliberately aggravated ethnic tensions. By the time they were consistently obvious it was a little on the late side.

On the other hand, I've been falsely accused of being a racist before and it undeniably hurt my feelings a little bit.