A “Sideways” supply response in California winegrapes

Re:A “Sideways” supply response in California winegrapes by neild on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @12:24AM (#30068438)

It’s complicated. A lot of the research is misreported. The supposed study demonstrating that experts can’t tell the difference between red and white wine says no such thing. But people do love a narrative that takes the wind out of a snob’s sails, so the legend persists.

True experts can distinguish an astonishing number of characteristics of wine in a blind taste. Most people are not experts. The price of wine is also largely decoupled from how much any given person will enjoy it. (However, psychologically, you will probably enjoy a bottle you paid $100 for more than one you paid $20 for.)

Basically: Wine is not all just indistinguishable fermented grape juice, but most stuff written about wine is a combination of bunk and rarified trivia no normal drinker should care about. Drink what makes you happy.

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Re:A “Sideways” supply response in California winegrapes by Beldin on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @01:55AM (#30068953)

Sidenote on wine pricing, heard on the radio: in Europe, the cost of everything but the contents of a bottle of wine is about €2.50 (or a bit higher). That covers the glass, the label, transport, branding of the chateau, etc.

Corollary: the wine in a €4 euro bottle is 3x as expensive as the wine in a €3 bottle €1.50 vs €0.50).

That broadcast was a while ago, so the details might not be exact. But the main point is that after the first (about) 3 euro, you're starting to spend money on the contents. Before, you're literally paying a few pennies for the wine...

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Re:A “Sideways” supply response in California winegrapes by nicoburns on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @06:19AM (#30070588)

That's probably true outside of wine-producing regions. In wine-producing regions of Europe, you can get a cheap bottle of wine for €1. It's often decent* quality too.

* well, better than the £5 bottles you get here in the UK

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Re:A “Sideways” supply response in California winegrapes by halpert on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @09:27AM (#30072098)

There are some variables though. Like the glass bottle, screw top vs. plastic cork vs. real cork, and quality of label printing.

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Re:A “Sideways” supply response in California winegrapes by bee_rider on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @02:08AM (#30069037)

Another feather in the cap of box wine.

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