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Re:California school kids must get Covid vaccine under new bill by steelstraw on Monday January 24, 2022 @06:26PM (#30065614)
I'd encourage you to do some cursory risk benefit analysis before spreading baseless fear like this.

The flu is more dangerous to kids (see slide #17 here https://www.fda.gov/media/153508/download) and it has "long" symptoms too. It's not unusual.

Driving them to and from school is 10x more dangerous.

An unvaccinated kid has risks lower than a vaccinated adult. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/12/briefing/covid-age-risk-i...

Besides, many (most?) kids have already had Covid anyway.

I'm tired of the fear mongering and acting as though Covid is the only risk in the real world. Or as though you're going to hide from it forever. It's endemic and we have the vaccines for those at risk. Go back to normal and quit pushing your neurosis on kids. Please. We've disrupted their lives far too much already.

Re:California school kids must get Covid vaccine under new bill by nradov on Monday January 24, 2022 @09:36PM (#30067191)
Besides the flu, RSV is also more dangerous than COVID-19 to children. But RSV had been around for a while so we just accept the risk instead of panicking about it.

https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/2021/han00443.asp

Re:California school kids must get Covid vaccine under new bill by BobbyJo on Monday January 24, 2022 @06:39PM (#30065741)
> Driving them to and from school is 20x more dangerous

Do you have data to back that up? Genuine question. A lot of people pull numbers out of thin air when the topic is touchy.

Re:California school kids must get Covid vaccine under new bill by bseidensticker on Monday January 24, 2022 @06:59PM (#30065933)
Those were certainly pulled out of thin air. All these numbers are for the US:

Approx 38k people killed in cars in 2020: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in..., lets assume the same for 2021 so 76k dead.

Approx 850k people killed by covid https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

So covid killed more than 10x as many Americans as cars did (not including pedestrians). That doesn't take into account age though. CDC shows only 727 dead in the 0-17 age range.

For cars, it seems that at least in 2006, about 2000-2500 children 16 and under were killed in cars: https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/...

Seems like cars are a few times more deadly for kids than covid, but covid killed way more Americans of all ages. Not a great analysis, but it's as good a job as I'm going to do.

Re:California school kids must get Covid vaccine under new bill by s1artibartfast on Monday January 24, 2022 @07:27PM (#30066212)
so 5X more children die in car crashes and not 10X?
Re:California school kids must get Covid vaccine under new bill by bseidensticker on Monday January 24, 2022 @10:51PM (#30067744)
Someone said that driving them to and from school is 20x more dangerous (and then edited their comment to say 10x instead of 20x). I was just casually looking up the stats for myself and thought I'd share.
Re:California school kids must get Covid vaccine under new bill by s1artibartfast on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @06:27PM (#30079619)
I see, thanks
Re:California school kids must get Covid vaccine under new bill by kjeetgill on Monday January 24, 2022 @10:00PM (#30067361)
The 10x number was from a different poster than the one following up with the numbers that were asked for.
Re:California school kids must get Covid vaccine under new bill by s1artibartfast on Monday January 24, 2022 @10:09PM (#30067422)
It seemed like they were arguing against the accuracy of the estimate, but their math supports it. If you look at the totals, you get 5x and divided covid deaths by 2 years, you get 10x