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Re:The FSF’s relationship with firmware is harmful to free s... by d0mine on Sunday January 23, 2022 @12:05AM (#30043782)
Imagine you are fighting for peasants rights; feudal doesn’t like it and orders to kill one peasant per day until you surrender. Question are you the bad guy for not surrendering?
Re:The FSF’s relationship with firmware is harmful to free s... by chii on Sunday January 23, 2022 @12:10AM (#30043803)
> are you the bad guy for not surrendering?

those peasants who died are killed by the feudal lord, so no - 100% not the bad guy for fighting.

The only way you could be considered a bad guy is if you used peasants as suicide bombers - and only if those people didn't volunteer.

Re:The FSF’s relationship with firmware is harmful to free s... by _ph_ on Sunday January 23, 2022 @03:40AM (#30044622)
I disagree to the blanket form of statement. Yes, it is the feudal lord who does the killing, but that doesn't mean there is no guilt if your actions effectively lead to the named peasants are killed. Whether one shares some guilt by the actions has to be judged in each case separately.
Re:The FSF’s relationship with firmware is harmful to free s... by chii on Sunday January 23, 2022 @10:04AM (#30046620)
> doesn't mean there is no guilt if your actions effectively lead to the named peasants are killed.

but it's not a law of physics that the feudal lord kills a peasant - they did it by choice. This is what absolves the rebels from any guilt of the deaths. The rebels, a priori, believes that their rebellion is just, and therefore, by definition it cannot be morally wrong. It's not their fault if the feudal lord decides to do something morally wrong, based on any reason (including to extort the rebels).

This is different from a case where actions of the rebel directly lead to deaths of peasants - for example, bombing the residence of the feudal lord which causes collateral damage. In this case, the action must be judged individually.

Re:The FSF’s relationship with firmware is harmful to free s... by jimmyvalmer on Sunday January 23, 2022 @09:23AM (#30046327)
Yes, if the right you're defending is as arcane and hard to explain as libre software.