I've actually had a look at the document you pointed. It's very confusing. The last line of the report at page 7 states:
Rates of hospital admissions in the time range (8/nov - 5/dec):
- fully vaccinated: 493
- partially vaccinated + unvaccinated: 267
Rate per 100k admitted to hospital, same time range:
- fully vaccinated: 39
- partially vaccinated + unvaccinated: 208
I'm not sure how to reconcile the numbers above. Page 8 is a graph plotting the second metric (rate per 100k).
Most people in the hospitals for Covid are vaccinated.
And I'm sorry, I thought this was a thread about Ireland?
Again, the fact that the numbers don't reconcile still stands, and without clarifications, that table and any references are meaningless.
From page 7:
- Rates Admitted to Hospital per 100,000: All adults, Fully vaccinated: 39.0
- Northern Ireland population: 1.9 millions
Expected admitted in the whole N.I: (39 * 1900 / 100) = 741
- Total admissions: All adults, Fully vaccinated: 493.
The numbers 741 and 493 don't match.
The rest of the table is inconsistent as well; for example, the proportions between fully and non vaccinated, between the rate per 100k (right), and the absolute values (left), are inconsistent between each other.
Futher, on the second page:
> During this 4 week period there were 790 hospital admissions, 36 (4.6%) of which had received a third dose.
The number 790 and 36 are other two who add to the pile of inconsistency. Until everything is explained with exactness, that report is essentially garbage.
> And I'm sorry, I thought this was a thread about Ireland?
In absence of correct data about N.I., the CDC report is a reasonable source, also by mean of being considerably larger scale. It can be acceptable to refute it when referring to Northern Ireland, but in this case valid data is required.
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Additionally, about this:
> Most people in the hospitals for Covid are vaccinated. This is not an indictment against the vaccines, they prevent hospitalization, but the sheer number of vaccinated people still means they're the majority in the hospitals and ICUs, and the unvaccinated are a minority across the board.
This is a common mathematical mistake; see conditional probability notions.
To explain the mistake using extremes, if all the population except one was vaccinated, and one not vaccinated, hospitals would have 100% of vaccinated people, but the conclusion that because of that being vaccinated is less effective than not being vaccinated, is wrong; one needs other variables to make this conclusion.
The issue is that if you're gonna try to blame unvaccinated people for your problems, they should actually be the source of your problems - which they're not.
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The data on page 7 also shows hospitalization is overwhelmingly for populations aged 60+ and up. Which is unfortunate, but I think people, parents especially, are having to decide between tradeoffs of prioritizing elderly versus benefits kids get from ending restrictions.
If you disagree with this statement, then here's hard proof: See page 7 of this UK report (latest data) tracking the vaccination status of Covid hospitalizations and deaths: https://www.health-ni.gov.uk/sites/default/files/publication...