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Re:IP Addressing in 2021 by api on Friday January 21, 2022 @09:37AM (#30024025)
What are the security concerns with V6 that don't exist with V4?
Re:IP Addressing in 2021 by yardstick on Friday January 21, 2022 @09:48AM (#30024191)
Not the op, but there are basic things like having to enable privacy addresses otherwise you expose your MAC in your IPv6 address.
Re:IP Addressing in 2021 by api on Friday January 21, 2022 @10:57AM (#30025285)
This can be fixed not only with privacy addresses but also with DHCPv6 instead of SLAAC. The use of the MAC in this way was a bad bit of design but it's easily remedied. There is nothing in IPv6 that mandates that addresses be assigned this way. Like IPv4 they can be anything.

I personally like stuff like :feed:cafe:babe:beef or :dead:d00d :).

Re:IP Addressing in 2021 by yardstick on Friday January 21, 2022 @11:13AM (#30025550)
I agree they can be fixed, although I disagree that DHCPv6 is the solution given Android doesn't support DHCPv6. In practice most vendors I know of just use privacy addresses by default now for IPv6, at least outside servers, so it's mostly a non-issue but the fact remains it's something not applicable to IPv4. And for quite a while it was an issue, it's just that IPv6 hasn't been popular enough for consumers to care instead of just security people.

> There is nothing in IPv6 that mandates that addresses be assigned this way. Like IPv4 they can be anything.

Yes but that's nitpicking at the core RFCs vs the many other supporting RFCs. There's no IPv4 RFC for using a MAC in the IP address, whereas there is with IPv6 (rfc2373 from a quick look, maybe others).

Re:IP Addressing in 2021 by yjftsjthsd-h on Friday January 21, 2022 @11:16AM (#30025601)
Sure, you can fix it, but you have to fix it; with v4 it just wasn't a problem.
Re:IP Addressing in 2021 by Dagger2 on Saturday January 22, 2022 @07:22AM (#30036052)
It's not really a problem in v6 either. Most OSs ship with privacy extensions enabled.
Re:IP Addressing in 2021 by staticassertion on Friday January 21, 2022 @05:01PM (#30030539)
Is exposing a MAC a considerable issue? Also I feel like you can randomize your MAC easily enough.
Re:IP Addressing in 2021 by escalt on Saturday January 22, 2022 @07:16AM (#30036011)
It allows for tracking users since the second half of your address is always constant. It's a fixed problem though since basically all consumer devices these days use privacy extension addresses, which don't expose your MAC address and periodically change to a new random IP address
Re:IP Addressing in 2021 by immibis on Friday January 21, 2022 @11:11AM (#30025505)
Then operating systems shall start shipping with that option enabled by default.
Re:IP Addressing in 2021 by icehawk on Friday January 21, 2022 @01:37PM (#30027977)
They already do, both the mac and windows computers on my desk have it enabled.
Re:IP Addressing in 2021 by yardstick on Friday January 21, 2022 @11:14AM (#30025562)
Yes, and it's additional overhead for the people designing the operating system to worry about. More complexity, more attack surface.
Re:IP Addressing in 2021 by chungy on Friday January 21, 2022 @09:55AM (#30024281)
I'm guessing OP is under the impression that IPsec is mandatory in v6. There was an intent in the 1990s to do exactly that, but it was recanted.
Re:IP Addressing in 2021 by count on Friday January 21, 2022 @06:18PM (#30031230)
https://hpc.mil/images/hpcdocs/ipv6/nsa-router-security-conf... [PDF warning]

Here's a guide on secure router configs and an overview of some threats that are new in ipv6.

Re:IP Addressing in 2021 by jandrese on Friday January 21, 2022 @05:07PM (#30030586)
Also, this ignores the fact that IP address scanning is tremendously harder on IPv6 than it is on IPv4. That's a significant security improvement right off the bat.

All of the dozens of Internet bots that try to portscan my router every day would cease to be an issue if I could turn off my IPv4 address.