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Re:French moratorium on prion studies after two cases of fat... by arghwhat on Friday January 21, 2022 @09:18AM (#30023780)
A protein can misfold in countless ways, and there are countless of proteins to misfold.

That a virus can be a big and complicated structure does not mean that smaller and simpler structure is fundamentally different.

Viruses themselves also have many different modes of operation, with things like virophages, satellite virus and giant virus showing just how unclear the term "virus" is.

Re:French moratorium on prion studies after two cases of fat... by tomxor on Friday January 21, 2022 @09:29AM (#30023911)
> A protein can misfold in countless ways, and there are countless of proteins to misfold.

They are countable, but yes there are many ways, but that alone doesn't mean it's capable of meaningfully evolving. It's a search space multiple orders of magnitude smaller than a piece of DNA, so it's easy to see how a different successfully propagating misfold will be significantly less likely when starting from an existing propagating misfold.

If you are suggesting one propagating misfolded protein can, by chance, misfold into another propagating misfolded protein at a rate fast enough to become adaptive... then it's qualitatively the same as a virus, but I don't see this as likely given the significantly smaller search space.

Re:French moratorium on prion studies after two cases of fat... by arghwhat on Friday January 21, 2022 @11:33AM (#30025874)
The largest protein we produce is about 27k amino acids, more complicated than most virophages. That is merely the biggest we produce. I know of no upper limit on protein complexity, and that is before even taking folding options into consideration.

The space of possible proteins - and thus prions - is not at all limited, neither figuratively nor literally. It is most certainly not "countable" without some Nobel-prize inducing discovery.

Re:French moratorium on prion studies after two cases of fat... by tomxor on Friday January 21, 2022 @11:51AM (#30026148)
> The largest protein we produce is about 27k amino acids, more complicated than most virophages

The only known human prion proteins seem to be a few orders of magnitude smaller than that though, and they don't appear to adapt.

Are you saying it's possible for prions to emerge from large proteins with the ability to adapt?