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Re:Hetzner announcement: Price changes for servers ordered v... by nosianu on Friday January 21, 2022 @08:46AM (#30023373)
My local city-owned provider ("Stadtwerke" as the general term; I'm in a large city in Bavaria) and my contract details are

Less than 1.400 kWh / year

  Price 
  30,27 ct / kWh
  Base price
  89,28 € / year
  Online-Bonus 
  10,00 € / year
More than 1.400 kWh / year

  Price
  27,92 ct / kWh
  Base price
  122,52 € / year
  Online-Bonus 
  20,00 € / year
I took the standard package and never shopped around. I'm using around this 1400 threshold. It was >1600 before I switched the energy-guzzling graphics card for a minimal one (I don't play games and videos are the only thing utilizing it a bit, on the 32 inch screen). Apart from the PC and 32 inch monitor an Italian all-metal and heat-radiating portafilter espresso maker (with E61 brew group, whose 1961 design did not care about energy efficiency, unfortunately) is the largest contributor to my bill. Lighting is negligible, heating is for the whole apartment building and gas-powered.
Re:Hetzner announcement: Price changes for servers ordered v... by eqvinox on Friday January 21, 2022 @09:08AM (#30023639)
+1, living in a large-ish German city, that aligns with what I pay at home.

For the generally curious, you can go to https://www.verivox.de/ click on "Strom" (= electricity), type in a german postcode (grab one off google maps, 5-digit number), and type in a kWh / year number. (The "number of persons" is just a fill-in aid for the kWh/yr.)

That said, these numbers are entirely useless for discussions around a hoster like Hetzner — they're end user prices.

Re:Hetzner announcement: Price changes for servers ordered v... by NanoCoaster on Friday January 21, 2022 @08:52AM (#30023435)
If you don't mind me asking, which city? I'm in Regensburg and recently got moved to my munincipal provider because my former provider closed shop and it's looking...bleak. We're talking ~60+ct / kWh.
Re:Hetzner announcement: Price changes for servers ordered v... by nosianu on Friday January 21, 2022 @08:52AM (#30023440)
N-Ergie, Nürnberg (Nuremberg)

https://www.n-ergie.de

Re:Hetzner announcement: Price changes for servers ordered v... by FL410 on Friday January 21, 2022 @09:17AM (#30023764)
Good to know that the "energy" pun is versatile enough to translate! https://www.nrg.com/
Re:Hetzner announcement: Price changes for servers ordered v... by NanoCoaster on Friday January 21, 2022 @08:55AM (#30023477)
Thanks, very interesting. Should've stayed in Nürnberg, I suppose :)
Re:Hetzner announcement: Price changes for servers ordered v... by PinguTS on Friday January 21, 2022 @09:01AM (#30023556)
Yes, as they service only their own area and do not act as a reseller.

As from the latest newsletter I've got they are 100% sustainable and source everything themself without anything to buy in from nuclear, coal, and gas. That's the reason why they don't offer anymore the ecofriendly tariff, because they are 100% anyhow.

Re:Hetzner announcement: Price changes for servers ordered v... by secondcoming on Friday January 21, 2022 @08:52AM (#30023438)
'Base price' is what's called a 'Standing Charge' in the UK?

(it's a flat daily fee you pay regardless of your gas/electricity usage)

Re:Hetzner announcement: Price changes for servers ordered v... by suction on Friday January 21, 2022 @08:58AM (#30023522)
It's a service charge. They say it's a rental fee for the meter. Just one of those scams that are allowed to go on because nobody bothers to take them to court for it. ISPs are doing it too, i.e. charging a monthly fee for the DSL modem they install in your flat.
Re:Hetzner announcement: Price changes for servers ordered v... by PinguTS on Friday January 21, 2022 @08:58AM (#30023519)
No, Base price is basically for renting the meter (and maybe some other internal fees).
Re:Hetzner announcement: Price changes for servers ordered v... by PinguTS on Friday January 21, 2022 @08:50AM (#30023423)
Looks like we share the same city even as I am not in that city anymore but still serviced by the same company directly and not as a reseller.