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Re:A note for LWN subscribers by GeekyBear on Thursday January 20, 2022 @03:50PM (#30014736)
> "Conservatives in both parties" is a bit reductive and I'll also call out as misinformation/misrepresentation:

Are you under the impression that Manchin or the other Conservative Democrats support universal healthcare?

They do not.

Re:A note for LWN subscribers by kodah on Thursday January 20, 2022 @04:15PM (#30015146)
There's really not that many of them. Secondary to that, which might be a bit pedantic, is I dislike "conservative" being used as a pejorative as I mentioned. It's not really an accurate reflection of what Manchin or others believe in or what the populations they're voting for are concerned with. As I also stated, I think it's a bit reductive.
Re:A note for LWN subscribers by GeekyBear on Thursday January 20, 2022 @04:41PM (#30015499)
Seventeen Centrist Democratic Senators voted with Trump to kill banking reform.

That does not sound like "not many" of them.

Re:A note for LWN subscribers by kodah on Thursday January 20, 2022 @04:58PM (#30015711)
There are 48 Democratic senators and 2 independents. I'd have to look at why each of those 17 decided to vote against banking reform. It's not like it's as simple as "conservative" or "not conservative", which is exactly what I'm calling reductive.
Re:A note for LWN subscribers by GeekyBear on Thursday January 20, 2022 @05:31PM (#30016199)
Conservative Democrats have held the leadership roles in the party since the end of the Regan years.

>The Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) was a non-profit corporation founded in 1985 that, upon its formation, argued that the United States Democratic Party should shift away from the leftward turn it took in the late 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. One of its main purposes was to win back white middle class voters with ideas that addressed their concerns. The DLC hailed President Bill Clinton as proof of the viability of Third Way politicians and as a DLC success story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council