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Re:What it means to teach gifted learners well by ajuc on Thursday January 20, 2022 @02:34AM (#30005903)
> Good teaching for gifted learners requires an understanding of "supported risk." Highly able learners often make very good grades with relative ease for a long time in school. They see themselves (and often rightly so) as expected to make "As," get right answers, and lead the way. In other words, they succeed without "normal" encounters with failure. Then, when a teacher presents a high-challenge task, the student feels threatened. Not only has he or she likely not learned to study hard, take risks and strive, but the student's image is threatened as well.

This is the key. Everybody constantly says you're great cause you are so smart. Your value and identity is build on that for half your life at that point. If you suddenly can't deal with something - it means you're a fraud. Better to fail because you haven't tried ("you're so smart but so lazy") than to fail after a solid try ("you are not special after all, you're just a regular kid").

And for a while it works - you put less effort not to risk being "found out", you get same effects (or even better effects because if you haven't tried and still got A it means you're that much smarter). Then it stops working and you're absolutely miserable never having learned to put in the work.

I don't know how to "fix" this problem, I think the first step is to stop showering gifted kids with praise.

Re:What it means to teach gifted learners well by amatecha on Thursday January 20, 2022 @02:54AM (#30006043)
Seriously. The constant praise and expectation that I'm "soooo smart" was terrible ego-bolstering and false-confidence-building I didn't need or want. I have a lifelong problem with taking on challenges that I might not succeed at or easily crush, even as I near the age of 40. I've had to work REALLY hard to suppress my instinct to avoid failure and just face challenges head-on. It's seriously a constant battle.

That said, nothing could have changed the fact that during my entire childhood, I saw everyone around me struggling with (or not breezing through) things I found super easy, and I got very used to finding everything easy. I had extremely few opportunities to fail, relative to anyone else around me. If something was hard, I basically just wouldn't do it. That's nothing to do with praise, and unfortunately a much harder issue to even spot, let alone mitigate.

After thinking about what I've just written here, I feel like the praise issue is like the surface-level problem but the "only knows how to succeed" is a deeper and probably more-important issue to look out for.

Re:What it means to teach gifted learners well by fuber2018 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @05:01AM (#30006901)
Some researchers suggest parents should praise effort instead of intelligence.

see https://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/14/science/praise-children-f...

Also children should be permitted to fail.

Re:What it means to teach gifted learners well by versteegen on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:37AM (#30008693)
I haven't heard anyone disagree. Praising intelligence instead of effort is incredibly pernicious and foolish. I can speak from my own life experience.