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Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by coldtea on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @05:09AM (#29991804)
>I am actively trying to learn about the cultural heritage I was denied apparently largely due to fear of violent white supremacists, basically.

At something like the 1/16th level, it doesn't mean anything anyway (not even to white supremacists, but much less so as a real heritage). A heritage is the shared experiences, raising, and cultural connection, not about some miniscule bloodline/dna.

Unless we're talking about isolated inter-breeding populations, almost all people several 1/16ths of one or another ethnicity, that they have absolutely no connection with in any way (or ever cared about).

Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by RHSeeger on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @08:26AM (#29993310)
You seem to be mistaking "I want to know about the history of the people I come from" for "I want to know how the history of the people I come from impacts my everyday life". It's entirely possible to be curious your ancestry because it's part of the long path that leads to you existing.
Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by shkkmo on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @09:37AM (#29994058)
I don't generally talk about my 1/32nd heritage, but there is a photograph of my great great great grandmother on the wall of my parents' house and I grew up with it there.

Your dismissive attitude is entirely inappropriate. I think it is commendable to be interested in learning about the parts of your family history that may have been suppressed out of racism or fear or racist retaliation.

Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by Thiez on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @10:25AM (#29994793)
Was it really suppressed? I literally couldn't tell you anything about any of my great great grandparents, and the only thing I know about my great grandparents is that two of them used to own a bakery. I don't know any of their names. Sometimes history is just forgotten without any nefarious reasons, it's just stuff that doesn't matter anymore and the people it's about are long dead.
Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by shkkmo on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @09:09PM (#30003464)
Different families and people place different priorities on passing those stories along. I personally had the good fortune of having one great grandmother who lived long enough for me to have many memories of her. I'm also lucky that other people in my family have taken the time to document many of tge stories that I don't know.

There are many reasons why these stories aren't passd on (often is is just that younger generations don't ask enough questions) but there is no reason not to take Doreen at her word about why her didn't talk about that part of the family tree much.

There certainly is no call to belittle people's interest in their heritages and family history, especially when they could learn stories about their family history that might be lost.

I sincerely advise to to ask any older living relatives to tell you what they can about your great grandparents (and consider recording those stories). You might not care now, but those stories do disappear with time and you or future generations of your family could find them very valuable.

Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by Thiez on Thursday January 20, 2022 @05:14AM (#30006996)
> I personally had the good fortune of having one great grandmother who lived long enough for me to have many memories of her. I'm also lucky that other people in my family have taken the time to document many of the stories that I don't know.

I think my great grandmother lived until I was somewhere in my teens. I inherited her TV when she died. I've still forgotten her name. Does it really matter? In the end we'll all be forgotten, and that is fine, because once you're dead you're gone. I wouldn't want my descendants to keep looking back, they should be looking forward.

> There are many reasons why these stories aren't passd on (often is is just that younger generations don't ask enough questions) but there is no reason not to take Doreen at her word about why her didn't talk about that part of the family tree much.

In your opinion, what would be the cut-off for "important" family history? How many dead and gone generations should we expect younger generations to remember?

I'm not saying Doreen is lying, I'm just saying that history naturally fades (unless you're Jesus or Hitler or something. Even then truth and myth will blur over time) and there usually isn't anything nefarious about that. Perhaps she's reading too much in it. With every generation you go back your number of new ancestors doubles (up to some point). Some of those people will be boring. Others maybe weren't interested in their family history (such as myself) and will effectively be a dead end.

> There certainly is no call to belittle people's interest in their heritages and family history, especially when they could learn stories about their family history that might be lost.

I think very few would object to people being interested in their family history (although some might find it a frivolous pursuit). It's the word "heritage" that makes me roll my eyes. If something wasn't part of your upbringing, then to me it's not part of your heritage.

> I sincerely advise to to ask any older living relatives to tell you what they can about your great grandparents (and consider recording those stories). You might not care now, but those stories do disappear with time and you or future generations of your family could find them very valuable.

Saving myself a lot of time now at the cost of potentially disappointing a curious member of a future generation seems like a good trade-off. Doubly so when it possibly prevents them from claiming a "heritage".