How the Native American population changed since the last census

Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by smcl on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @04:51AM (#29991704)

Just as an aside, I feel like "Scots-Irish" is a fairly uniquely American phrase which you don't really hear in Scotland or Ireland. There are a couple of possible interpretations and always I wonder which is meant:

1. Ulster-Scots, i.e. the Scottish people who moved into northern part of Ireland (now all of Northern Ireland plus a couple of counties in Ireland)

2. Some Irish and some Scottish, i.e. they have ancestors from both places and want a word to describe this

3. Generally celtic, i.e. they know it's Ireland or Scotland or maybe both and want to cover their bases

Neither is particularly harmful, but I kind of wish some people understood that #1 is a distinct thing

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Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by kgbdrop1 on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @05:03AM (#29991767)

The overwhelmingly most common usage is #1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_Americans).

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Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by smcl on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @06:40AM (#29992408)

Right so this is what I meant. I've seen a few people proudly declaring their Scotch-Irish ancestry and in the same breath cursing those awful Brits who colonised Ireland (without realising that is technically the ancestors they are proud of). Like I'm not expecting anyone to be ashamed or anything, but a little awareness goes a long way and can save a few awkward situations

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Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by Ichthypresbyter on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @09:57AM (#29994361)

There's a reason why hillbillies are hillbillies, and it's not just because it sounds good.

(People in those parts of the country are disproportionately likely to be Scotch-Irish, and therefore to have an ancestor who named a child after William III).

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Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by smcl on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @10:14AM (#29994599)

Interesting, that's a new one on me! Thanks

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Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by cat199 on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @08:11AM (#29993134)

> a little awareness goes a long way and can save a few awkward situations

if society ever gets this right about northern ireland it will be a good day for everyone :)

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Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by mbg721 on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @10:02AM (#29994434)

(Ricardo Montalban opens cigar box.) "Cuban?"

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Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by PaulDavisThe1st on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @10:00AM (#29994402)

It was a distinct cultural group who were largely outcasts in both Scotland and Ireland, and lived in certain specific areas of both nations. The majority left for north America because of their treatment in the British Isles.

This is covered in significant detail in "Albion's Seed", among others.

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Re:How the Native American population changed since the last... by smcl on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:49AM (#30007706)

I know what they were. My point is that many people use this and don't seem to properly understand it and appear to be think that it means definition #2 or #3. See the example I gave: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29992408

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