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Re:Dad and the ten commandments of egoless programming (2012) by Ntrails on Monday January 17, 2022 @05:12AM (#29965065)
> Avoid the pursuit of happiness. Seek to define your mission and pursue that.

Someone is going to need to explain to me why focussing on being happy is a bad idea. My historic view was "I'd rather chase being content and comfortable" as it's less of a sugary high and more of a stable base. However - I do not think that is what is being said here?

Re:Dad and the ten commandments of egoless programming (2012) by MagnumOpus on Monday January 17, 2022 @08:17AM (#29966225)
What he means is to avoid making hedonism your only goal in life, but to have some goal beyond that...
Re:Dad and the ten commandments of egoless programming (2012) by Ntrails on Monday January 17, 2022 @11:33AM (#29968284)
I'm not sure that happiness == hedonism? I would contend that most people spend too much time and effort chasing eg "being an expert in field x" or "getting a job with consultancy k" because they mistakenly think it's a good thing in and of itself.

Maybe I'm wrong! Maybe our goals should be lofty and our own happiness tangential - but I don't buy it. If anything I think more people should think about things that make them happy, rather than focussing on abstract life goals that may or may not do that.

Re:Dad and the ten commandments of egoless programming (2012) by michaelbrave on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @01:25AM (#29990619)
it's been my life experience that trying to be happy is like grasping sand, the harder you try the more it eludes. While living with a purpose, or for the sake of others it seems to come naturally.
Re:Dad and the ten commandments of egoless programming (2012) by TOGoS on Monday January 17, 2022 @12:30PM (#29969008)
Because happiness is not something you can 'have', it's something that happens. If you pursue happiness as a goal in itself, you may find that whatever you thought would give you happiness is not enough. On the other hand, if you have a mission and pursue that, you might not accomplish your mission, but happiness, or at least contentment that you are making progress, may happen in the process.

Related: "What is the meaning of existence? To stop searching for the meaning of existence" (paraphrased from somewhere).

I like Alan Watts' talk on 'discipline'[1]. tl;dr: "It's enormously important, especially for American people, to understand that there is absolutely no possibility of having any pleasure in life at all without skill."

[1] https://youtu.be/RNn1FB-Yn2M - put it in a background tab to avoid the silly graphics.

Re:Dad and the ten commandments of egoless programming (2012) by Ntrails on Tuesday January 18, 2022 @05:10AM (#29977145)
I think my argument runs counter to this. Stop chasing things you think might give you happiness/contentment in some long run, as though it is some intangible second order effect.