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Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by jsheard on Sunday January 16, 2022 @01:44PM
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Dell have been vendor-locking their AMD CPUs the same way for a while now
https://www.servethehome.com/amd-psb-vendor-locks-epyc-cpus-...
Previously it was limited to EPYC chips (the huge server parts) but it's spread down the stack to Threadripper Pro (high end workstation) chips as well now
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by 1MachineElf on Sunday January 16, 2022 @02:14PM
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While avoiding Chinese-made computer components approaches impossibility the deeper you go, one vendor I'd trust not to fool around with AMD's PSB is System76. Not only are they non-shady, but they also try to open the firmware of the motherboards they use. While their AMD systems aren't quite there yet, the laptops they sell are.
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by infofarmer on Sunday January 16, 2022 @01:43PM
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Do I have news for you about the device you typed this onβ¦
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by older on Sunday January 16, 2022 @02:20PM
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Please share the news.
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by CoastalCoder on Sunday January 16, 2022 @01:44PM
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Out of curiosity, which vendors do you find acceptable?
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by UltraViolence on Monday January 17, 2022 @01:06AM
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Western manufacturers, even if they manufacture their stuff in China.
I don't want stuff made or designed by Chinese companies. They suck at it and most of their stuff is unfinished and barely works.
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by rasz on Sunday January 16, 2022 @01:44PM
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You misunderstood. This is about resale of base components. Go to ebay and look up 2-3 generations old Intel chips - super cheap from China. With this you wont find cheap AMD parts since they will be locked to Lenovo motherboards.
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by vel0city on Sunday January 16, 2022 @01:52PM
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FWIW, they're not locked to Lenovo boards you just need to have a board that can be configured to not care about the PSB.
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by NablaSquaredG on Sunday January 16, 2022 @02:04PM
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This is not correct.
The locks does happen on the CPU level. If the board cannot provide a BIOS with a valid signature from the key that was burned into the CPU, the CPU will refuse to boot (PSB prevents it from booting)
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by vel0city on Sunday January 16, 2022 @10:03PM
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Ah, you're right, I was reading the suggestions section of TFA as a the system works like this not that it would be nice if it worked liked this. My bad!
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by Koshkin on Sunday January 16, 2022 @01:45PM
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China is the new Japan now. Only 10x that.
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by metalliqaz on Sunday January 16, 2022 @02:05PM
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Are there any that are not manufactured in China?
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by beefield on Sunday January 16, 2022 @02:19PM
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Maybe Fujitsu?
https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/tech-news-techn...
Of course, I assume lots of components for those are made in China.
Samsung might make in South Korea? Asus in Taiwan?
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by fomine3 on Sunday January 16, 2022 @09:28PM
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Some models sold in Japan by Fujitsu/NEC/Lenovo/Vaio/Panasonic/HP are assembled in Japan. Lenovo acquired NEC and Fujitsu so they share factory. HP is interesting case. Some NEC/Vaio/Panasonic's laptop motherboard is also made in Japan.
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by ginko on Sunday January 16, 2022 @02:17PM
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VAIOs are assembled in Japan at least.
Re:Lenovo vendor locking Ryzen CPUs with AMD PSB
by kiryin on Sunday January 16, 2022 @01:46PM
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Oh the irony of fate...