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Re:Doctors call out Spotify for letting Joe Rogan spread ‘fa... by anonymouse008 on Saturday January 15, 2022 @10:15AM (#29946916)
> The vaccine unquestionably reduces severe infection, hospitalization, and death. It’s not even a question at this point.

If I may, this claim alone is the rallying cry of the anti vax movement - the original reasons given for emergency use was vaccines prevented infection for 90% of patients.

Anyone who took a quick look at the study knew that was bonkers… the methods obviously (and confirmed in hindsight) weren’t controlled properly and don’t support a reduced infection claim…

So the narrative shifted to preventing hospitalization - so the value given by not getting Covid is gone… you will get covid it just won’t be as bad.

Well now we are in the lottery effect where everyone believes they will be the one to beat the odds…

Re:Doctors call out Spotify for letting Joe Rogan spread ‘fa... by lucb1e on Saturday January 15, 2022 @10:52AM (#29947273)
Citations needed? I have questions about basically every one of those sentences.
Re:Doctors call out Spotify for letting Joe Rogan spread ‘fa... by anonymouse008 on Saturday January 15, 2022 @12:38PM (#29948382)
Here's one - if you're interested, you can continue to look for others...

Absolute Risk Reduction = 1·3% for the AstraZeneca– Oxford, 1·2% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·2% for the J&J, 0·93% for the Gamaleya, and 0·84% for the Pfizer– BioNTech vaccines.

https://doi.org/10.1016/S2666-5247(21)00069-0

Re:Doctors call out Spotify for letting Joe Rogan spread ‘fa... by PragmaticPulp on Saturday January 15, 2022 @10:18AM (#29946953)
> the original reasons given for emergency use was vaccines prevented infection for 90% of patients.

The vaccine does prevent serious infection for the majority of patients.

Deaths are so much higher in unvaccinated COVID patients that it's not even a close question. The vaccine works.

Re:Doctors call out Spotify for letting Joe Rogan spread ‘fa... by s1artibartfast on Saturday January 15, 2022 @02:21PM (#29949315)
preventing infection /= preventing serious infection. They have different implications.

Agreed that vaccines prevent serious infection.