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Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by artificialLimbs on Friday January 14, 2022 @01:48PM (#29938442)
This.

Employer might not have even known quitting was on the table if there is only a hint. Be bold and direct to reduce miscommunication and you'll be the one standing with integrity.

Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by daenz on Friday January 14, 2022 @01:52PM (#29938502)
To be specific about what my hint was, I said "it doesn't make sense to me that the company would be willing to lose me over letting me go down to 4 days." I'm fairly certain my point came across clearly, but my guess is that he thought I was bluffing.
Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by jollybean on Friday January 14, 2022 @07:03PM (#29942176)
Or ... instead of being 'bold and direct' and assuming that 'you are the one with integrity' ...

... try letting them know your position tactfully, and be reasonable by trying to understand your own demands in context, with eye on both industry norms and norms within the company, and creating a good outcome for both sides.

And dispense with this 'integrity' moralizing.

Much like young CEO's trying to nego with VC's, hiring managers and companies do this day in and day out, they see it all, moreover, they have a different set of objectives, which you have to respect and build them into your consideration.

It's definitely a good idea that they know you might have competing offers, or that you are strongly considering moving on, but those are things you definitely don't want to browbeat them over. A simple, tactful acknowledgement is good enough. I would recommend having a quick chat in-person about it. And stay away from hard lines or antics.

The grass is always greener on the other side, wherever you go it'll be great for 6 months and then you'll discover a bunch of things you don't like ... while there's definitely a lot to be said for moving on, sometimes I think that grinding is definitely under appreciated.

Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by wanderingmind on Friday January 14, 2022 @04:30PM (#29940708)
This is a bad idea. Never tell an employer you might leave until you have an alternative option. This only gives them an opportunity to look for an alternative to you.
Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by sorry_outta_gas on Friday January 14, 2022 @03:41PM (#29940132)
quitting is always on the table, thinking otherwise is silly

people evaulate what they are doing constnatly

Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by WJW on Friday January 14, 2022 @05:26PM (#29941356)
Middle managers in particular get paid in large part for "drinking the kool aid". They might honestly not realize that their subordinates might see other companies as a viable alternative since so much of their self worth is tied up in this one particular company.