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Re:Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel ... by bitwize on Friday January 14, 2022 @12:03PM (#29936997)
This probably counts as "circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a copyrighted work" under the DMCA and is thus illegal.
Re:Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel ... by flotzam on Friday January 14, 2022 @12:38PM (#29937408)
There are plenty of use cases qualifying for an exception. The list is getting longer with every ruling, here's a link to the whole unwieldy mess: https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2021-23311.pdf... (§ 201.40)
Re:Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel ... by tablespoon on Friday January 14, 2022 @01:10PM (#29937903)
tl;dr: literally the first exception allows circumvention of DVD and Blu-ray encryption for various fair use purposes.
Re:Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel ... by burkaman on Friday January 14, 2022 @12:14PM (#29937122)
Morally and ethically there's no issue though, and the risk of prosecution seems incredibly low if you're just ripping your own discs for private use, so I don't think this really matters.
Re:Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel ... by bitwize on Friday January 14, 2022 @12:21PM (#29937213)
Trafficking in circumvention devices is a crime, regardless of what you intend to do with them.
Re:Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel ... by fisf on Friday January 14, 2022 @12:44PM (#29937511)
In many countries around the globe this is absolutely not a crime, copying content that you own is perfectly legal and not even a grey area.
Re:Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel ... by bitwize on Friday January 14, 2022 @01:01PM (#29937767)
True in many parts of the world. U.S. copyright law makes no exception for copying content you own, though I do agree it may be hard for media companies to prosecute so you'll probably get away with it. The Betamax Supreme Court case was won -- 5-4 -- because the court found a single, very narrow, noninfringing use for a VCR: recording a television program that will air only once and never again after that single airing, and you cannot be around to view said television program at its scheduled time, and you intend to destroy the recording after viewing it once. The ruling does NOT cover recording off the TV willy-nilly, or copying things you own; there is a dicta in Justice Blackmun's dissent stating these things to be explicitly illegal.

But I'm not talking about doing the copying itself. I'm talking about circumventing DRM which is a separate offense from copyright infringement. That is illegal in the USA, with certain specific, narrow exceptions, whether you use such circumvention to infringe copyright or not. Trafficking in circumvention devices, including publishing or downloading firmware that disables access protection measures, is illegal full stop.

(Remember DeCSS? Yeah, hosting that is still a federal crime, irrespective of what you or your audience intends to do with it. The irony is, that means the Feds have every right to take Eric S. Raymond's guns away and bar him from owning a gun for life: http://www.catb.org/esr/netfreedom/)

Re:Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel ... by flotzam on Friday January 14, 2022 @12:53PM (#29937640)
I'm not sure that the modded firmware even includes the actual low-level read routines. Isn't the whole thing split up to load them into the drive's RAM after every power cycle? If that's the case then the modded firmware alone is arguably not a circumvention device, and neither is the drive once it's powered down. :P
Re:Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel ... by bitwize on Friday January 14, 2022 @01:22PM (#29938051)
LibreDrive disables the "policing", i.e., the software that makes the drive refuse to read due to a wrong region code, revoked key, etc. This counts as an "effective technological measure" separate from any decryption, etc. the drive performs and LibreDrive is thus likely a circumvention device under the DMCA. Publishing it would therefore be a felony, punishable by up to five years in federal prison, in addition to civil penalties.
Re:Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel ... by flotzam on Friday January 14, 2022 @01:44PM (#29938385)
Agreed but LibreDrive is the system as a whole (before decryption, sure). I was curious about the persistent component of that system, the modded firmware.
Re:Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel ... by burkaman on Friday January 14, 2022 @12:43PM (#29937482)
I understand, and I assume you're probably right. What I'm saying is that it's ok to commit this crime. You're not harming anyone, and in the particular scenario we're talking about, there's no chance that you'll face any consequences.
Re:Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel ... by Guvante on Friday January 14, 2022 @12:24PM (#29937247)
It is a grey area. Right to repair has had success without legislation for abandonware. The rights of the copyright holder generally don't actually extend to blocking your access.

Now whether "latest Intel chips don't support playback" is sufficient to fall under this flag is obviously a complex topic but I think it is certainly not cut and dry.

Re:Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel ... by datagram on Friday January 14, 2022 @03:26PM (#29939928)
> The rights of the copyright holder generally don't actually extend to blocking your access.

The issue here is that the DMCA makes bypassing copy protection illegal regardless of whether or not the actual use of the media infringes on copyright, and exceptions are only added every 3 years[1] and are generally very specific in scope.

From my understanding it's less of a gray area and more of a dithered black and white area that can look gray from afar.

[1]: https://www.copyright.gov/1201/

Re:Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel ... by stjohnswarts on Friday January 14, 2022 @02:22PM (#29939057)
some things are worth it.