Re:The Philosophy of Work [pdf]
by gls2ro on Friday January 14, 2022 @07:31AM
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I am also open to new ideas. So let's try to have a conversation about this.
Let me clarify (or add to my initial comment): When I say "we cannot go back to that stage" and "our society has given up on that" I want to say that we cannot feed 6-7 billion people with the process of hunter-gatherer. Or at least I cannot see how that could be possible.
So let's try to imagine how can it be that we all 7 billion are hunter-gatherers:
1. Are they enough animals to be hunted (not raised in farms - right?) are enough vegetables/fruits to be eaten? Can we make it so that we can assure at least 1-2 billion people (if not more) a sustainable way that we consume natural-grown resources and at the same time help replenish them without establishing a system that is like agriculture?
2. Can billion of people migrate every season to gather food?
I see no concrete answer in the now for this. It might be that we want to go there but in my assumption, this could happen either due to a catastrophic event or in hundred of years if not more.
So, ideologically we might want or not be like that. But pragmatically that is not possible right now.
Or maybe I have a different definition of what that state of living is, so maybe we should define what a hunter-gatherer society looks like?
More general, every time I see a proposal/discussion about how we should live I am always concerned about "how can we all live" not just a group of people/or a specific country. Because if we cannot find a way for all of us to live then that is not a stable model.
Let me clarify (or add to my initial comment): When I say "we cannot go back to that stage" and "our society has given up on that" I want to say that we cannot feed 6-7 billion people with the process of hunter-gatherer. Or at least I cannot see how that could be possible.
So let's try to imagine how can it be that we all 7 billion are hunter-gatherers:
1. Are they enough animals to be hunted (not raised in farms - right?) are enough vegetables/fruits to be eaten? Can we make it so that we can assure at least 1-2 billion people (if not more) a sustainable way that we consume natural-grown resources and at the same time help replenish them without establishing a system that is like agriculture?
2. Can billion of people migrate every season to gather food?
I see no concrete answer in the now for this. It might be that we want to go there but in my assumption, this could happen either due to a catastrophic event or in hundred of years if not more. So, ideologically we might want or not be like that. But pragmatically that is not possible right now.
Or maybe I have a different definition of what that state of living is, so maybe we should define what a hunter-gatherer society looks like?
More general, every time I see a proposal/discussion about how we should live I am always concerned about "how can we all live" not just a group of people/or a specific country. Because if we cannot find a way for all of us to live then that is not a stable model.