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Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by sarchertech on Thursday January 13, 2022 @12:49PM (#29924002)
Again "predatory lending" is a standard term, that has a commonly accepted meaning. What you're describing doesn't fit.
Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by lotsofpulp on Thursday January 13, 2022 @01:38PM (#29924716)
Yes, it is not the traditional use of the term. But for me, lending an 18 to 21 year old $200k +/- $50k to get a degree in literature from a non top school would qualify as predatory lending.

The probability of that person digging themself out of that hole and being able to achieve the common expectations of a family, house, vacations, retirement, weekends, etc is pretty low.

Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by sarchertech on Thursday January 13, 2022 @02:17PM (#29925338)
You can't get a public loan for $200k. Public loans max out at around $60k. The OP was talking about government backed loans being predatory.

And someone with $60k in public loans most certainly can dig themselves out of that hole, because repayment is capped at 10% of disposable income, and it is cancelled after 20 years.

Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by lotsofpulp on Thursday January 13, 2022 @02:37PM (#29925652)
I was under the impression that private student loans were also guaranteed by the government, but based on my searches trying to source my information, it seems Obama administration changed this since I went to college.
Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by learc83 on Thursday January 13, 2022 @02:50PM (#29925852)
Here's what happened. Federal loans have existed for a long time. The Federal government would guarantee loans made by private organizations. However, these were always "Federal loans", the Federal government controlled the interest rate and the maximum amounts available.

The government under the Obama administration changed things so that "Federal" loans instead of being made by private organizations and backed by the government, were directly distributed from the treasury.

However even before this, there were separate Federal and private loans, and the only way to get to $200k (for undergrad) was to get unsubsidized private loans that weren't backed by the government.

Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by lotsofpulp on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:12PM (#29926934)
Thanks, I did not know that. What is a subsidized private loan be unsubsidized private loan?