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Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by pbhjpbhj on Thursday January 13, 2022 @12:47PM (#29923948)
You've not really addressed the spirit of the question, they're not asking about aircraft maintenance really, they're asking why academic courses and more hands-on practical/technical courses can't be mixed?

I guess in the UK you'd try for an apprenticeship with day release to college for the academic elements (or take a job in a technical field and do an Open University or other distance learning course for the academic side?).

Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by sokoloff on Thursday January 13, 2022 @12:51PM (#29924041)
I tried to and answered the way I did because I think a lot of people vastly underestimate the time and effort required to get certified for a trade. “Why can’t I just add an MD to my engineering degree?” seems like a ridiculous question, but “Why can’t I add a plumber’s or electrician’s or AMT license/certificate to my degree?” is treated as “well, that’s a good question; you ought to be able to!”

(They specifically asked about a certification not just “some coursework”.)

Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by ClumsyPilot on Thursday January 13, 2022 @01:48PM (#29924880)
I don't think this is right, basic domestic electrician training in UK takes 2 months. Many trades don't have a lisence, i.e. bike mechanic.

I think the problem is in the culture of these institutions, they are not prepared for getting iut of a classroon and getting their hand dirty.

Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by throwaway0a5e on Thursday January 13, 2022 @01:54PM (#29924978)
Certification time varies greatly.

A pretty good set of AWS welding certs can be done in 6wk of night classes.

You can't get paid money to install a toilet in some states until you've started as the jobsite bitch, worked your way up and payed years of your life into the system to get in a position to even be eligible to take the test.

The latter tends to only happen after regulatory capture.

Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by lapsedacademic on Thursday January 13, 2022 @12:49PM (#29923986)
they're asking why academic courses and more hands-on practical/technical courses can't be mixed?

I think they did answer this: it's because hands-on practical/technical skills are hard to learn and people who can teach them are generally expensive.

Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by ghaff on Thursday January 13, 2022 @01:58PM (#29925039)
I'd add that while a full certification is quite hard to learn and takes a lot of time, schools absolutely have hands on courses. I have a mechanical engineering degree and two of my courses were very hands on with machine shop and building something for a contest.
Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by ClumsyPilot on Thursday January 13, 2022 @01:44PM (#29924823)
Education is also expensive, arguably what the hell are we paying for then?
Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by shinjitsu on Thursday January 13, 2022 @09:13PM (#29929830)
Unfortunately a lot of this is because many faculty of 'liberal arts' colleges/universities believe "we are here to give an education and open student's minds and broaden their horizons" but even more often I have heard "liberal arts are not intended to be job training institutions"

so it is a much easier sell a creative writing major in a faculty senate or something similar than Aircraft Maintenance. And when you do get Aircraft Maintenance it usually gets tucked into the engineering or business schools in order to survive.

also: https://thedispatch.com/p/we-are-less-educated-than-we-think