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Re:Young people from Brazil's favelas set out to conquer dig... by ghaff on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @03:28PM (#29912279)
>lots of people say it about parts of American cities - it's nonsense

In general (although it used to be truer).

That said, there are many places in US cities where I'd pretty strongly recommend against looking out of place, wandering around like a clueless tourist, late at night.

No, you probably won't be shot. But being robbed isn't out of the question.

What is almost certainly true is you're pretty safe most places if you blend in reasonably, keep valuables hidden, and look like you know what you're doing.

Re:Young people from Brazil's favelas set out to conquer dig... by wolverine876 on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @04:17PM (#29912796)
> there are many places in US cities where I'd pretty strongly recommend against looking out of place, wandering around like a clueless tourist, late at night.

We can always construct hypothetical situations that meet some criteria. I wouldn't recommend that in any part of any city.

Re:Young people from Brazil's favelas set out to conquer dig... by marcan_42 on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @04:47PM (#29913159)
> I wouldn't recommend that in any part of any city.

It's pretty safe in Tokyo. Not every city requires you to be on the constant lookout for your own safety.

Perhaps you're used to cities with higher crime rates, and are projecting that onto every city.

Re:Young people from Brazil's favelas set out to conquer dig... by wolverine876 on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @07:23PM (#29914977)
> Perhaps you're used to cities with higher crime rates, and are projecting that onto every city.

Must we make up hypotheticals for my state of mind too? Perhaps stick to the facts and stay away from the person.

Re:Young people from Brazil's favelas set out to conquer dig... by marcan_42 on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @07:41PM (#29915201)
I mean, assuming your experiences are shared to some extent with everyone else's is a pretty human thing to do. It's also a particularly American thing to do, perhaps for cultural reasons.

My point is this isn't a hypothetical; you can walk around Tokyo at night and be fine.

Re:Young people from Brazil's favelas set out to conquer dig... by wolverine876 on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @09:20PM (#29916022)
> I mean, assuming your experiences are shared to some extent with everyone else's is a pretty human thing to do. It's also a particularly American thing to do, perhaps for cultural reasons.

You really have no idea what you are talking about, but don't let it stop you.

Re:Young people from Brazil's favelas set out to conquer dig... by alephnan on Thursday January 13, 2022 @01:47AM (#29917583)
I think you're the one who has no idea what you are talking about and should just accept that you're wrong.

> I wouldn't recommend [wandering around like a clueless tourist, late at night] in any part of any city.

I have lived in Tokyo, NYC, San Francisco for at least 2 years each. Tokyo is a concrete and non-hypothetical counterexample to your proposition.

> We can always construct hypothetical situations that meet some criteria.

How is not recommending going to dangerous neighborhoods in America a hypothetical situation? There is statistical data and crime maps. You cannot deny that.

Re:Young people from Brazil's favelas set out to conquer dig... by wolverine876 on Thursday January 13, 2022 @05:09PM (#29927620)
I don't know what I'm talking about in regard to my own experiece and thinking? Perhaps you can inform me.
Re:Young people from Brazil's favelas set out to conquer dig... by simplestats on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @05:02PM (#29913323)
Where I live now, you can wander around at night no problem. A cop might get suspicious and hassle you is about the worst.

I have also lived in places where not only would I advise more-vulnerable people against going out at night, I wouldn't go wander around myself either.

But yes the odds of being a victim aren't leaping from zero to 100 percent between these nighborhoods. More like aceptably low to unacceptably high.