I frankly see it the other way around. I want measures to relax precisely because I think about groups and not specific people.

The psychological damage being done, in a society which doesn't have the tools to deal with it properly (and with this I mean pretty much the entirety of western society) is not even being taken into account. Quality of living for a good deal of society has gone to hell, I can't even take a walk in the park without a mask on (I happen to be Spanish). It's madness.

Public healthcare psychology is not even brought up by GPs anymore unless you risk suicide, and even then there is a waiting period of several months. Suicide attempts are at an all-time high and the amount of depression and anxiety backing it up can't be overstated.

I feel like we are pretending we solved the trolley problem all of a sudden.

In other words, "let the weak die...I'm tired of wearing a mask."

https://twitter.com/kombatliberlism/status/14815700214909747...

I am astonished how many people prioritize the social/pub/restaurant/movie theater scene over the literal survival chances of millions of people. I guess I should stop being astonished and accept that people are driven primarily by their desires and self-interest. Cast them into the pit, I want a cheeseburger.

>I am astonished how many people prioritize the social/pub/restaurant/movie theater scene over the literal survival chances of millions of people.

We all do. We have always done this. That's why drugs exist. That's why transportation exists. Life is not a "maximize your lifespan" game, it has never been.

I think it is the other way round. The tiny, 'selfish' fraction want to shut down the 'group' that is society because they are more at risk.

You have your groups backwards. The self-centered are the ones demanding society shut down in response to their own personal fears, even if that shut-down disproportionately effects others (i.e. the poor, the young, etc.) The group-centered people are the ones willing to accept a higher degree of personal risk in order to keep schools open and supply chains functioning.

Let's say I walk into a movie theater/church/restaurant and nobody is wearing a mask. Is everyone else a jerk for not wearing one, or am I the jerk for expecting everyone else to?

Third option: You are the jerk for not wearing a mask.

I mean, why would you worry about if others are unmasked when you already are vaccinated and wearing an N95 mask on top of that?

The most extrapunitive, other-blaming, people I know are sociopaths so I'm going with the latter explanation.

You sound like someone who really enjoys building up and tearing down straw men.

You sound like someone who responds on message boards with ad-hominems rather than counterarguments, nice to meet you!