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Re:Google says iMessage is too powerful by Shank on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:20PM (#29899880)
I’m not saying this flow is good, but you can deregister and disable iMessage, even if you don’t leave iOS, but especially if you do: https://selfsolve.apple.com/deregister-imessage/

It’s not intuitive of course, but you can totally turn it off and deregister, even if you don’t have your iPhone anymore.

Re:Google says iMessage is too powerful by ghughes on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:58PM (#29900273)
This only works for 1:1 conversations. If you were in any iMessage groups and then deregister, iOS will silently drop you from future messages, and it isn't possible for the same group composition to be re-established over MMS.
Re:Google says iMessage is too powerful by pornel on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @08:01PM (#29900927)
SMS/MMS is insecure, so ability to replace an authenticated iMessage user with an SMS recipient in existing groups would endanger the whole groups.
Re:Google says iMessage is too powerful by hcurtiss on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @12:30PM (#29909980)
It could at least ask the user the question. "One of the users on this thread has deregistered their number. Would you like to send by SMS so that they are included, or are you comfortable excluding them from this conversation? The SMS message would not be encrypted."
Re:Google says iMessage is too powerful by acdha on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @07:10PM (#29900386)
That makes sense since SMS doesn't support iMessage's always-on encryption but normally you can recreate the group using SMS once the former iMessage user's deregistration has gone through.
Re:Google says iMessage is too powerful by ghughes on Thursday January 13, 2022 @07:36PM (#29929061)
No, you can't do that. Once you've been a member of an iMessage group, iOS will not allow participants who have iMessage enabled to switch to MMS with that same group of users, even if everyone deletes and re-creates the thread.