Poisoning the water supply to increase the margin on bottled water is a valid business plan. Banning that is a good answer, and neither authoritarian nor fascist.

Supply again. Supply!!

The analogy would be you telling people they have to drink that water a certain way and banned from drinking it the way they want. That’s fascism.

Everybody that wants to ban PoW is an authoritarian fascist. Might be an eco fascist, might be a boot licking state loving fascist… still a fascist.

I thought that was a simple story.

No one is banned from drinking poisoned water. What is banned is poisoning other people's water. Really, this isn't that difficult.

If you want to make a point about supply, please make a point about supply instead of just repeating the word randomly.

We can all agree we want clean power, which is entirely in the hands of the suppliers. Rather than pushing one’s preferences around on users and forcing them to do your will, why not go after the Coal and Gas producers — the supply.

People get upset when you want to ban things because it’s a bully move. The bully thinks their opinion is true and correct and others must succumb to their will.

Your use of words like "bullying" and "pushing" suggests you frame this as some kind of antagonistic battle instead of arguing on the merits.

People don't get upset when we outlaw things because the rule of law is a great thing in general. People enjoy not getting mugged or having their water supply poisoned. Please tell me how a ban on poisoning the water supply is "bullying".

Please provide a better analogy. I don’t see what using electricity has to do with poisoning water.

The point of contention is your claim that bans are "fascist". You have not substantiated that claim, so I don't really know why I even try to refute it, but I tried with a simple illustration that sometimes, banning things is not "fascist", and not bullying.

You're banned from using the word "fascist".

Fascist!

Leaded fuel, FCKWs and asbestos also want to have a stern talk with the authoritarian madness. I guess we just can't have nice things anymore.

I agree that fossils fuels are being subsidized where they should be carbon taxed, and that's the only reason most crypto mining (and many other industries) using fossils fuels is still viable. But I disagree that bans are always authoritarian "madness". We ban things all the time. There are many substances and contraptions that you must hold a license to own or use. We have ban murder. We don't just disincentivize it, we actually do not allow it. And no one disagrees that this should be the case.

And this isn't a slippery slope argument, we are now at the point where irresponsible care for our climate is translating into actual lives lost.

Also, this is a perfect example of calling something "fascist" that categorically does not fit the definition of fascist. Fascism requires you to believe that one arbitrary group of people is superior to another, and that the govt/legislation should reflect this.

The arbitrary group is nevercoiners, who read something years ago and did some napkin math and drew some very wrong conclusions. They think they are better than the Bitcoiners. The nevercoiners are fascists.

I thought you said this was a war on general purpose computing. Wouldn't the arbitrary group then be anyone who uses a computer?

I don't want to restate everything I said above (which you definitely need to reread before you even consider responding to me), I just want you to see that you are a walking meme and should take a moment to reassess.

A living breathing walking meme. Are we not all? I’m not worried about this persona at all. It is purposefully as it should be. It services this role. We both agree you can’t stop people doing math.