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Re:Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and da... by u2077 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:52PM (#29898582)
As others have mentioned, I want to try it first without having to create an account and give you my personal information.

Also, your FAQ says “We do not track any personally identifiable information. Additionally we do not sell or share user data with third parties.” but your privacy policy says “ We may share your personal information with third party advertising companies to market our own Services and grow our Services’ user base, such as to provide targeted marketing about our own Services via third-party services as described in the advertising purposes section above.”

I would like to use sign in with apple so I don’t have to use my personal email, especially considering you cannot change your account email at this time.

Looks like a great app from what I can see, but between obsidian & procreate my needs are covered without a subscription.

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Re:Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and da... by attasi on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @06:38AM (#29905028)
Honestly, we haven’t even considered allowing a test drive without an account but the community here has given us some really great opinions in why that is so important. We’re going to discuss this and see if there’s some way we can do that. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this!
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Re:Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and da... by RamblingCTO on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @09:28AM (#29906691)
Also, please don't forget that HN can be a very strict bubble that is not representative. Most apps don't give you the option to test-drive that without an account. So I wouldn't implement this feature actually if it were me.

Good look with your idea, looks nice!

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Re:Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and da... by ekanes on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @08:44AM (#29906180)
Beware this adds complexity for you, and all added complexity slows forward momentum. If you’re getting ENOUGH traction/feedback without this change I’d consider punting it for later when you’re closer to scaling mode not learning mode.
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Re:Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and da... by u2077 on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @07:15AM (#29905320)
It doesn’t have to be much, even if it’s just a note embed in a demo page that you can’t edit, or a few components one could look at up close. When I go to your website I have to judge the entire product on 3 small images. Even a video would go a long way.

I also think you should show a tutorial before the sign-up page on your app. You may get organic traffic through the app store and potential customers have no idea if the app is for them before getting hit with a sign-up page.

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Re:Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and da... by nerdponx on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @07:23PM (#29900514)
It's weasel words. "Personal information" is not strictly "personally identifiable"; it doesn't matter that you can trivially de-anonymize people with even a modest amount of data.
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