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Re:An Ode to Ruby by pelasaco on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:13AM (#29889247)
The "you should be using Crystal" post is mandatory in any ruby thread. If everyone saying "yes, Crystal" were actually using Crystal, then:

a) they would see how far from "better ruby" is Crystal and

b) The Crystal community would be huge.

Re:An Ode to Ruby by brigandish on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @07:08AM (#29890545)
> they would see how far from "better ruby" is Crystal

Are you accusing us both of lying? How strange.

Re:An Ode to Ruby by pelasaco on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @03:27PM (#29897342)
would you mind to post your github/gitlab repositories with your Crystal projects? Looking here I couldn't find anyone https://github.com/yb66?tab=repositories&q=&type=source&lang...
Re:An Ode to Ruby by brigandish on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @10:54PM (#29902085)
So you are accusing me of lying, how lovely of you!

Let's see if your accusations can hold up to Socratic questioning:

- If I haven't open sourced any Crystal projects does that mean I haven't written any?

- I have published several Ruby gems[0], when was the last commit or version bump for any of them? You're more interested that I am, tell me. I really should archive them, thanks for reminding me.

- You missed off my Gitlab, what was the last public contribution I made there? (hint[1])

- What's the last gem I created? I reckon it's this one that I didn't publish[2] because the Rack team changed a public API in such a dumb way that I'd have to rewrite it and then mucked me around with a pull request to Rack that one of the core team copy and pasted in as their own commit while arguing against the pull. Weird, but lovely people, like yourself. Meanwhile, your cookies lack security. Yes, I want to continue working within this language and ecosystem… Does the sarcasm come through in my writing?

- Why did you not check the Crystal repo?[3][4] Github has a search facility. Put my username in, and pick `commits` on the left.

- How did you miss the forks of Docopt.cr[5] and Fancyline[6]? They're right there in my public activity log. Did you not see the merges into Fancyline of my code?[7] I have more to give, just trying to find the time.

- Did you not see forks with commits such as xattr.cr[8], xdg.cr[9], and Pope.cr[10]

- You didn't see I'd provided a project[11] for Mint so it can be run easier with Docker Compose?

- Aside from that I have a whole host of changes to migrate.cr[12] still to push up. You can't know that but you might've guessed that I was at least working with that - and all the other forks of Crystal projects I have.

That is all public and not the half of the Crystal code I look at.

Should I expect an apology? If you were too cowardly to be straightforward with your accusations then I find it stretches credulity far beyond breaking that you could be big enough to provide one. We'll see, like you, I've been very wrong about people in the past.

[0] https://rubygems.org/profiles/yb66

[1] https://gitlab.com/arctic-fox/spectator/-/merge_requests/34

[2] https://gitlab.com/yb66/aes-gcm

[3] https://github.com/crystal-lang/crystal/pull/11201

[4] https://github.com/crystal-lang/crystal/blob/1.1.0/CHANGELOG...

[5] https://github.com/yb66/docopt.cr

[6] https://github.com/yb66/fancyline

[7] https://github.com/Papierkorb/fancyline/pulls?q=is%3Apr+yb66

[8] https://github.com/ettomatic/xattr/pulls

[9] https://github.com/dscottboggs/xdg.cr/pull/1

[10] https://github.com/yb66/pope.cr/commits/master

[11] https://github.com/yb66/Mint-Docker-Compose

[12] https://github.com/yb66/migrate.cr

Re:An Ode to Ruby by pelasaco on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @05:47AM (#29904685)
Sorry, looking through the forks, they are all in sync with master, and most your contributions are small. It is great, nothing against it. The only thing that I wanted to say is that as soon as you start to work in a real project with Crystal you realize that it is not just a better ruby and it comes with it's own set of problems, patterns and etc. So I don't see a point to cite Crystal as option to ruby in every thread about ruby. That's my point.
Re:An Ode to Ruby by brigandish on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @09:08AM (#29906456)
> Sorry, looking through the forks, they are all in sync with master

I don't think you understand how Git works, which probably explains why you missed all the repos I needed to point out to you.

> , and most your contributions are small

What have you ever contributed? Show me.

> The only thing that I wanted to say is that as soon as you start to work in a real project with Crystal you realize that it is not just a better ruby and it comes with it's own set of problems, patterns and etc.

How would you know? Please share the repo in which you found this out. What is a "real" project?

> So I don't see a point to cite Crystal as option to ruby in every thread about ruby.

You've contributed nothing of worth, not even a specific criticism of Crystal, let alone anything worth knowing about Ruby.

> That's my point.

Great point.

Re:An Ode to Ruby by pelasaco on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @09:28AM (#29906685)
> I don't think you understand how Git works, which probably explains why you missed all the repos I needed to point out to you.

LOL, you forked many repositories and didn't push any code. You just proved my point. Just people without experience in Crystal comes to ruby related threads to say "Dude, use Crystal". Happy learning <3

Re:An Ode to Ruby by brigandish on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @12:46PM (#29910233)
> LOL, you forked many repositories and didn't push any code.

Well, firstly that isn't true, and secondly even if it were true it's a good idea to fork repos you use. So, not only are you:

- childish ("LOL", really? This is HN)

- lying (always the sign of a strong argument)

- unable to search Github effectively

You also show bad development practices. Did you not see what happened this week with Colors.js[1]?

> You just proved my point.

Quite the opposite.

> Just people without experience in Crystal comes to ruby related threads to say "Dude, use Crystal".

Where is your repo showing your experience in Crystal? Or Ruby for that matter. Money where mouth is time, do you even have a single commit to a project in either language?

[1] https://github.com/Marak/colors.js/commit/074a0f8ed0c31c35d1...

Re:An Ode to Ruby by pelasaco on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @01:47PM (#29911162)
> You've contributed nothing of worth, not even a specific criticism of Crystal, let alone anything worth knowing about Ruby.

There is nothing in the text about Crystal. Why should I talk about Crystal?

> Where is your repo showing your experience in Crystal? Or Ruby for that matter.

I don't have too. That's not about Crystal, but about ruby :)

That's not about me and my code, not either about your little unknown rubygems, but the desire from people like to you to recommend Crystal as "drop-in" replacement for ruby, which is not.. Typical "I'm vegan" comment when people are talking about barbecue.

Happy learning <3

Re:An Ode to Ruby by brigandish on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @10:04PM (#29916315)
If you know nothing about Crystal, and seem unable to provide any evidence that you have anything of note to add about Ruby, then you have no way of knowing if Crystal can be a drop-in replacement for Ruby, and why you’re using quotes around “drop-in” when you’re the only person on the entire page to have used that word is telling.

Mendacious to the last. If you find a way to make a substantive or informed observation then do let me know, otherwise, please save it for your friends on Reddit.

Re:An Ode to Ruby by pelasaco on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @05:59AM (#29904752)
> they would see how far from "better ruby" is Crystal Are you accusing us both of lying? How strange.

now that I read "accusing us both of lying".. how could you interpret it like that? What I can see by your code, you are ruby developer trying to learn Crystal. See you in the next ruby thread ;)

Re:An Ode to Ruby by brigandish on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @09:10AM (#29906482)
> What I can see by your code, you are ruby developer trying to learn Crystal.

I don't value your opinion in this matter, you're simply trolling now.

> See you in the next ruby thread ;)

I doubt we'll interact again.