There are many ancient arts that got lost as time progresses. Not sure if we should fear changing our ways. I've drastically reduced my meat consumption in an effort to help with climate change. The end game for me is for, some time in future, meat consumption to be seen as something old fashioned that no one does anymore. Like wearing a top hat.

The only reason I'm not 100% vegan/vegetarian is because, since most people aren't, it restricts a lot the number of dishes you can eat. Specially when you go out in a restaurant. But, if more people would be vegetarians, I'm sure that would change.

> This is, like, the most charitable interpretation possible of the current state of farming for meat.

It is charitable to call it charitable. Almost all meat, eggs, and dairy comes from factory farming. The small farms that people like to tell themselves they eat from are a literal rounding error [0]. You only get that if you go to the actual small farm itself or eat out at a very expensive restaurant.

- If you buy a meat sandwich from the corner store...factory farming

- If you buy a burrito from a restaurant...factory farming

- If you buy eggs and cheese at a diner...factory farming

- If you buy milk from the grocery store...factory farming

You can tell yourself you only buy from small farms, but there is a 99% chance [0] you are eating factory farmed animal products. Sorry to break it to you.

[0] https://thehumaneleague.org/article/what-is-factory-farming

You don't get to do that in a discussion, just act like the main thing being lost would be only the nicest thing on your 'side'.