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Re:U.S. surgeons transplant pig heart into human patient by zizee on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @12:30AM (#29887955)
Sure, perhaps it can be justified by the greater good, but that should not preclude feeling sorry for the animal in question.
Re:U.S. surgeons transplant pig heart into human patient by fastball on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @02:36AM (#29888664)
Who said you're not allowed to feel sorry for it?

I feel like OP is being strawmanned. It's not like dexwiz said "fuck pigs test em more".

Re:U.S. surgeons transplant pig heart into human patient by zizee on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @03:39AM (#29889038)
Well the grandparent responded to a comment observing no sympathy being shown, with a comment that showed no sympathy, instead with reasoning for why it's worthwhile, and downplaying any suffering. I am not saying dexwiz was encouraging/promoting suffering of pigs, but they were ignoring the original call to express sympathy to these animals.
Re:U.S. surgeons transplant pig heart into human patient by fastball on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @08:57PM (#29901333)
People can feel sympathy without displaying it on queue for your gratification.
Re:U.S. surgeons transplant pig heart into human patient by zizee on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @11:22PM (#29902264)
I think your missing the point I am trying to make. Hint: It's not for my gratification, I am not asking people to show sympathy.

Ironically, you accuse people of "strawmanning", and then proceed do the same to me.

Perhaps take a leaf out of your own book and stop assuming intent.

Have a splendid day.

Re:U.S. surgeons transplant pig heart into human patient by fastball on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @01:41PM (#29911088)
> with a comment that showed no sympathy

> but they were ignoring the original call to express sympathy to these animals.

How is this not asking people to show sympathy?

Re:U.S. surgeons transplant pig heart into human patient by Sporktacular on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @09:05PM (#29915905)
It's not for show. As I said it was weird IMO that no concern for the pig was expressed. Given their capacity for suffering I would hope that people genuinely feel concern, which is not an invitation for hollow expressions of pity. Just doing that wouldn't make a lack of concern any less strange to me.

But dexwiz apparently enquired, or was at least aware that it seemed to have a reasonably good life. I guess that addressed my comment.

Re:U.S. surgeons transplant pig heart into human patient by suifbwish on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @01:08PM (#29895231)
It’s perfectly fine to feel sorry for the animal but there is no moral obligation for others to do so.
Re:U.S. surgeons transplant pig heart into human patient by Sporktacular on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @09:15PM (#29915988)
Only because technically we have no obligation of any kind to feel anything for anything.

But if a human was being experimented without their informed choice we would have a moral obligation to try to inform them, free them, to enquire about their welfare. What's the basis for thinking it be so different for other animals?

And if you're thinking 'but we can't obtain their informed choice' maybe we have our answer.