Re:A man who lives in a Boeing 727 in Oregon (2020)
by irrational on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @03:01PM
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> it's turned into such a shithole". This is always said to imply that it's not as white as it used to be
Well, I live in Portland and they aren't entirely wrong. When I first moved here many decades ago it was a very clean city. Now, every vertical surface (even including highway signs) is entirely covered with graffiti. Nearly every horizontal surface is covered with homeless camps. I would still want to live in Portland over anywhere else I have lived, but I don't know how anyone could argue that the city has not gone way downhill over the past 5-10 years.
Re:A man who lives in a Boeing 727 in Oregon (2020)
by rainonmoon on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @05:27PM
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I'm assuming you only meant to quote the first part of GP's post but including the second part followed by "they aren't entirely wrong" makes it look like you're agreeing that it being less white than it used to be is why it's turned into a shithole. Do you really think those two things are connected?
So being close to Portland might explain part of their allergic reaction to hippies. But I'm not sure if it's the whole issue. Oregon isn't just a red state with one dark-blue enclave. It also has a history of extremist white nationalism going back well over a century since its foundation a whites-only state. Then, in the 1980s and onward it became a destination for white nationalist groups, along with Idaho and eastern Washington. Grant's Pass and Medford, in particular, are hotbeds of extremism.
Another little anecdote. When I was relatively new to town, I struck up a conversation with an intelligent, pretty woman sitting outside a bar one day. She grew up in Grant's Pass. We hit it off and chatted for almost two hours before I mentioned I was Jewish. She got a stricken look and said, "oh - that's the one kind of person my Dad would kill me if I ever brought home." I asked why and she said, "He loves Adolf Hitler". She went on to explain that her father kept all of Hitler's speeches around the house. She said she wasn't into "any of those politics". Well, so much for that one.