Moderna's mRNA vaccine is based on one they tested for SARS-Cov-1 in 2003, and they have done long-term follow-up on those participants. They all turned into alligators after 15 years.

That's like saying: the crotch rocket is based on internal combustion engines, that have been proven safe in multiple automobiles. So crotch rockets are safe because they use internal combustion engines. MRNA is the platform. You can do good and bad things with the same platform.

More like saying, the Ninja 200xcr is a minor update of the Ninja 199xcr, which has been around since 2003 and shown to be safe when properly operated. So, Ninja 200xrc is almost certainly safe too.

How do you think we got Killer Croc?

And we don't know the long term psychological effects of wearing masks and social distancing. Those may be substantial as well, especially if it goes on for more than 2 years.

Long term COVID is known to exist, long term effects of vaccination are not and there is no reason to think they are likely.

(me: vaxxed, boosted, happy to boost some more. My 7 year old: vaxxed. My attitude: exactly as described as a "VAD" in the article)

> And we don't know the long term psychological effects of wearing masks and social distancing.

It might turn you Japanese or Finnish.

Americans spend all their lives socially distanced anyway - it's called driving.

Pretty sure my kid doesn't spend her life driving.

Regardless, what a weird, dismissive comment.

Asian people wear masks all the time, have for years, are fine, and in this particular case think you have a death wish for not wanting to do it all the time.

Death wish? When I am triple vaccinated? That's ridiculously out of whack with reality.

I'm at about the 99 percentile being safe and cautious. Talk to the anti-vaxxers about death wishes, that isn't me.

What you seem to be advocating is that we all wear masks continuously, forever. Because this isn't going away, it can barely be slowed down with masks, and it has become non-deadly for the vaccinated.

And I don't buy it for a second that everyone has to be masked or that you can't even eat in a restaurant in Asia. That is how it is here. Masks made sense for a long time, but at this point they are no more useful than they'll be a few years from now.

Does "Asian" here mean Japan in particular all the time, and parts of China sometimes?

Japan whenever they have allergies, celebrities whenever they go outside, and China much of the last two years whenever they get told to.