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Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by cm2187 on Monday January 10, 2022 @02:28PM (#29880426)
> Unvaccinated people have a much higher rate of severe illness that requires hospitalization. Filling up hospitals unnecessarily kills people, and delays preventative care.

Not if they already had covid or are young and healthly. I would agree with your statement with the qualifier "unvaccinated people that are over 60 or have comorbidity".

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by ketzo on Monday January 10, 2022 @02:35PM (#29880594)
You are, unfortunately, incorrect, at least about the "young and healthy" part.

Unvaccinated people of all ages are significantly more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than vaccinated people of the same age group [1].

12-34 year olds are 10 times more likely to be hospitalized.

Even if the absolute numbers are very low for young and healthy people – even if that's 0.01% instead of 0.001% of cases – that is an absolutely unacceptable amount of people to be putting into hospital beds when they could just get a motherfucking shot instead.

[1] Page 3 of https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/... Study published 3 days ago.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by cm2187 on Monday January 10, 2022 @02:46PM (#29880829)
The risk of covid to healthy 12-34 is minuscule, less than the flu apparently. You can divide this risk by 10 but that will do nothing materially to the risk to this population nor to ICU usage.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by ketzo on Monday January 10, 2022 @02:55PM (#29881034)
> that will do nothing materially

Tell me it's not material when you're waiting in a rural ER for six hours because one of their two ventilators is taken by an unvaccinated 19-year-old who went to three New Year's Eve parties.

There would be a conversation to have here if getting the vaccine wasn't the easiest goddamn thing in the world.

But it is. So there's not.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by cm2187 on Monday January 10, 2022 @03:01PM (#29881156)
We are talking about winning the lottery kind of tiny risks. Your 19yo could also be vaccinated. That’s also a plausible scenario. But both those scenarios are extremely unlikely.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by ifyoubuildit on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:41PM (#29883940)
I'd love to see a study like that breaking down the risks between seronaive and recovered people. They all seem to just talk about the unvaccinated as one monolithic group, but the difference between those with a prior infection and without is known to be huge.

I've yet to see any convincing evidence that a prior infection isn't good enough, but I see plenty of people convinced that the recovered are selfish/evil/stupid if they aren't rushing out for a vaccine.