Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths

Re:Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the cit... by usrusr on Monday January 10, 2022 @12:36PM (#29878363)

I simply don't understand why roundabouts aren't just shared. Do separation as much as you like 10m away from them, but in the roundabout, there's exactly zero excuse for a speed difference between motor vehicles and bikes. When drivers are expected to let segregated cyclists pass on leaving the roundabout, they actually have to go slower than they would merged behind even the laziest cyclist. I really don't get it.

(yes, the answer will be "but children!", but I'm a believer in "treat cyclists like children and only children will ride bikes!" and I'd be a firm believer if the Netherlands didn't have this annoying habit of proving me wrong ;))

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Re:Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the cit... by orthoxerox on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @01:52AM (#29888407)

Blind spots. The driver turning right doesn't see the cyclist planning to take the next exit if the bike lane is right next to the car lane.

With a segregated bike lane the driver turbing right has the bike lane in front of them.

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