Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths

Re:Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the cit... by Arnt on Monday January 10, 2022 @11:25AM (#29877205)

Uhm, don't the Dutch separate cyclists and motorists only where the speed limit is >30km/h? At ≤30km/h there's no separation at all IIRC.

Good news about Milan, though. That'll be such an improvement.

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Re:Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the cit... by watwut on Monday January 10, 2022 @11:33AM (#29877349)

30km/h is very low speed. Majority or roads are faster.

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Re:Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the cit... by estebank on Monday January 10, 2022 @12:35PM (#29878351)

30km/h is not an uncommon speed in European urban areas. For example, in France within towns 50km/h is the default speed limit for main arteries, but it is 30km/h for areas where pedestrians are expected. Most of Paris has made the switch, so has Brussels. I would go as far as saying they are a majority of streets, while yes, roads are always faster, but that would be playing semantic games.

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Re:Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the cit... by frosted-flakes on Monday January 10, 2022 @02:03PM (#29879880)

All streets are roads, no? While not all roads are streets.

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Re:Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the cit... by estebank on Monday January 10, 2022 @08:45PM (#29886065)

I'm going off of Strong Town's differentiation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ1HhLq-Huo, also tackled by Not Just Bikes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzNZUeUHAM.

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Re:Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the cit... by Arnt on Monday January 10, 2022 @11:52AM (#29877651)

Majority by road count, road length, road surface area, number of trips travelled or what? The answer varies. And BTW, 30km/h isn't very low speed in a country where bicycles are common.

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