Re:New York City will allow 800k noncitizens to vote in loca...
by edmundsauto on Sunday January 09, 2022 @04:33PM
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I agree, except citizenship has significant hurdles to immigrants. And lots of people take theirs for granted.
People who immigrate and become citizens, yes - they are invested. I don't think people who are natural citizens are as invested (except by default). And I definitely don't think people who are non-citizens are not invested -- they aren't allowed to "invest" in the same way.
For local residency, it's a little different since it's relatively easy to switch residency (at least here in the US).
Re:New York City will allow 800k noncitizens to vote in loca...
by wutbrodo on Sunday January 09, 2022 @04:46PM
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> I agree, except citizenship has significant hurdles to immigrants.
Agreed, this is a significant mitigating factor, which might make the policy make sense in any given situation.
All of these arguments apply to citizenship too, even more strongly. I've lived the majority of a year on three different continents, but have never changed my citizenship. It's also not accurate to say that the rich are less able to take advantage of this: the fact that I was able to try these things out is precisely because I'm rich.
I don't think the newcomer/old-timer distinction mentioned upthread is especially useful, for the reasons you already outlined. But formal citizenship maps almost precisely to being invested in a place: it's a commitment that you identify with this society and its future, (mostly) to the exclusion of any other society.