Re:Simplicity of IRC
by franga2000 on Sunday January 09, 2022 @12:00PM
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What's more "under control of the enterprise" than a self-hosted IRC server?
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It doesn't prevent clients from logging communications in that server. I know the same is possible in slack or teams, but they don't consider that from a legal perspective.
Re:Simplicity of IRC
by franga2000 on Sunday January 09, 2022 @12:12PM
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From a legal, practical and technical perspective, any window displayed on any screen is equally succeptible to logging. I can't imagine the fact that the company disabled ctrl+c in the policy settings making any difference in a liability case.
Re:Simplicity of IRC
by oarsinsync on Sunday January 09, 2022 @05:32PM
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> I can't imagine the fact that the company disabled ctrl+c in the policy settings making any difference in a liability case.
Taking reasonable measures absolutely does absolve the company. At that point, it becomes a rogue employee who’s deliberately circumvented policies and technical enforcements, who is now potentially personally liable.
It’s garbage, but hey ho.
Re:Simplicity of IRC
by franga2000 on Monday January 10, 2022 @07:49AM
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Fair enough, they did "try", but still feels equivalent to putting sensitive documents in a glass frame with a "no photos please" label on it and then claiming you did everything you could to protect them. I can't imagine that would fly in court, but I guess as soon as computers are involved, all common sense is lost.
Re:Simplicity of IRC
by jethro_tell on Sunday January 09, 2022 @03:36PM
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*print screen and phone cameras.
Also legal: doing it in house it's on you vs being a Slack feature means it's on them. CYA by outsourcing.
And consider this also: "hey we're quite sure pur homegrown system is as leak proof as it can be, trust us or fire up an audit team for 5 sprints to asses compliance" vs "Slack has the box checked already"
The fact that folks can e.g technically fire up a headless browser and programmatically interact with the app via capybara or whatever to rebuild a makeshift API, or just take pictures with their phones because the compliant system is inconveniencing them daily is immaterial.