Re:Why do 70% of families lose their wealth in the 2nd gener...
by selestify on Saturday January 08, 2022 @10:50AM
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Why would you assume 3 kids for every generation when birth rates are currently below replacement level? Also, add in rich people marrying people of similar socioenomic status, and you end up with quite wealthy families down the line.
Re:Why do 70% of families lose their wealth in the 2nd gener...
by sidlls on Saturday January 08, 2022 @11:25AM
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For the wealthy when people refer to growth versus consumption the context is almost always against the return generated from their portfolio, and the two are separate figures. That "4% growth above inflation" does not include what the capital owner is drawing for his own income. It's almost certainly more like an 8% - 10% return gives 3% to taxes and inflationary pressure, 3% - 4% for income, and the rest to growth.
And, yes, it's quite easy for the wealthy to get investments that return 7% - 8% with low to modest risk of loss. It's much harder to get more than that, but it's not difficult to generate substantial returns from even a modest portfolio in the low 7-figure range.
Re:Why do 70% of families lose their wealth in the 2nd gener...
by iso1210 on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:10PM
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5% sorry. It's a reasonable long term return.
25 years per generation.
Year 0: 10m Year 25: 33.8m. 3 kids, give them 10m each, leaving you with 3.8m for the rest of time
This repeats as long as you want.
Over 100 years at 5% you have 1.315 billion over 120 people, which is 10.95m each.
At 4% you'd have to have a 29 year generation, which is certainly more realistic (I know very few people who had the first kid under the age of 30). And would everyone have 3 kids? Don't forget to account for kids who die before they reproduce too.
Gen 1: 3
Gen 2: 3 + 9
Gen 3: 3 + 9 + 27
Gen 4: 3 + 9 + 27 + 81
Assuming the Gen 1 lives to 100 and each Gen has 3 kids every 25 years, then at the end you have 120 mouths to feed.
100 years of 4% growth above inflation would be rough 50x so 500M. But that assumes no consumption over the 100 years. Either way the growth of people overcomes the growth of resources over time.