Don’t worry, they’ll find a way to make it subscription based. But also, making the mfg own liability for self-driving is a really interesting topic that will change automotive.

As an automotive EE, I’m much more skeptical about autonomous than almost every other person here, but I look forward to being driven to work just the same.

Oh, I'm as skeptical as anyone--at least outside of certain defined conditions like interstates in good weather. But I don't see how manufacturers can't own liability (or something like the vaccine pool). If you sell me a car that's billed/approved as fully autonomous (fully, not in the Tesla FSD sense), it sure as hell isn't on me if it kills someone.

> certain defined conditions like interstates in good weather.

That’s where it is for me. I’ve been around the world and driven in all conditions. I don’t buy blinding whiteout snow, other drivers (Michigan esp)… without vehicle to infrastructure and to vehicle, I don’t buy it.

I think the solution to both our topics is it’ll be “mostly self driving”, maybe that only helps a little for liability.