Fortran is easy to learn

Re:Fortran is easy to learn by ogogmad on Saturday January 08, 2022 @07:30AM (#29851046)

The natural numbers don't start with 1... The convention is inconsistent, but for many mathematicians, especially including logicians, they start with 0. It is best not to use the term "natural numbers" at all.

By the way, your point about polynomials works in favour of the convention that 0 is a natural number.

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Re:Fortran is easy to learn by Koshkin on Saturday January 08, 2022 @09:27AM (#29851925)

Try thinking of being the zeroth person in a line. Or your child being in the zeroth year of her life.

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Re:Fortran is easy to learn by ogogmad on Saturday January 08, 2022 @09:38AM (#29852041)

How many lions are in my room at the moment? Hopefully zero.

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Re:Fortran is easy to learn by Koshkin on Saturday January 08, 2022 @10:41AM (#29852671)

But zero sheep is not a flock.

(Besides, there's uncountably many things you have zero of in you room.)

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Re:Fortran is easy to learn by ogogmad on Saturday January 08, 2022 @11:01AM (#29852880)

> But zero sheep is not a flock.

So one isn't a natural number?

> (Besides, there's uncountably many things you have zero of in you room.)

;) Exactly. Zero is the most natural number.

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Re:Fortran is easy to learn by Koshkin on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:55PM (#29854201)

So, on your scale, which is the first natural number?

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