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Re:Tell HN: Salary data is for sale by pydry on Friday January 07, 2022 @06:26AM (#29837845)
Capitalism is the engine behind the pay-to-play nature of the political processes and the supporting propaganda that triggers those failures.

You cant separate capitalism from, for example, the decades of amplified Koch propaganda attacking environmental regulatory prudence and buying up politicians. The Kochs respond to incentives just like everybody else.

>It's perfectly possible to have 100% ecological capitalism.

Only with a shallow and one dimensional view of what capitalism really is and how a state actually functions.

Re:Tell HN: Salary data is for sale by FredPret on Friday January 07, 2022 @11:43AM (#29841310)
Pay-to-play happens in every single society. The bigger the government, the more benefit there is in engaging in this behaviour.
Re:Tell HN: Salary data is for sale by pydry on Saturday January 08, 2022 @02:06PM (#29854977)
Corruption of some form usually exists in every society but this form is something a bit special.

r > g means that the power accumulates at a geometric rate without countervailing forces.

What this means is that capitalism requires an exceptionally tight leash to not spin out of control. The mere presence of voting isnt enough.

Re:Tell HN: Salary data is for sale by robertlagrant on Sunday January 09, 2022 @02:32AM (#29861124)
It's hard to know what you're saying here. What is "spin out of control" and why do you think it isn't addressed by competition and regulation?
Re:Tell HN: Salary data is for sale by pydry on Sunday January 09, 2022 @09:12AM (#29863360)
I'm saying that when it comes to regulation the sausage is mostly shaped by the same monopolists you naively assume it would protect us from.

And capital has a tendency to kill off competition you assume will just appear and magically take over.

Re:Tell HN: Salary data is for sale by emteycz on Sunday January 09, 2022 @11:07AM (#29864450)
It's not assumed, that's the objective of state: To create a sustainable and consumer-oriented market through regulation and incentives.
Re:Tell HN: Salary data is for sale by pydry on Monday January 10, 2022 @06:29AM (#29873203)
This is again, a feelings-based assumption. States do not behave according to this goal.
Re:Tell HN: Salary data is for sale by robertlagrant on Monday January 10, 2022 @02:26PM (#29880369)
> This is again, a feelings-based assumption

What feelings are you talking about?

Re:Tell HN: Salary data is for sale by emteycz on Monday January 10, 2022 @12:03PM (#29877834)
It's not a feelings based assumption, it's the role of liberal democratic states determined by the basic principles of democracy. That the states do not fulfill their role is their own fault.
Re:Tell HN: Salary data is for sale by robertlagrant on Saturday January 15, 2022 @09:11AM (#29946454)
> Capitalism is the engine behind the pay-to-play nature of the political processes and the supporting propaganda that triggers those failures.

No it's not. Greed is. Corruption happens everywhere, and as ever, a Communist state where government is far more powerful will be more corruptible.