“I am literally losing sleep” over Java (1996)

Re:“I am literally losing sleep” over Java (1996) by 62951413 on Thursday January 06, 2022 @12:55PM (#29827034)

It was about 10 years ago that the community agreed that it was the JVM that was successful. It's a platform with multiple viable languages. Scala obviously comes to mind. Kotlin is a somewhat mixed case because its popularity comes from the mobile world where you don't really have the JVM.

Java is not the most pleasant language for sure. It started as a dumbed-down as golang was (still is?) for years. It's still catching up with C++ (e.g. see all the Valhalla project discussions on HN). It certainly shows its age. It's not clear to me why so many people are still fixated on Java when solid alternatives have existed for years within the same ecosystem.

Also, if you don't like JPA try JOOQ.

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Re:“I am literally losing sleep” over Java (1996) by native_samples on Friday January 07, 2022 @07:56AM (#29838560)

Kotlin is pretty popular on the server side too, and Kotlin (the same compiler) generates JVM bytecode for both mobile and server in the same way because Android very much has a JVM.

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Re:“I am literally losing sleep” over Java (1996) by kaba0 on Thursday January 06, 2022 @03:35PM (#29829679)

How could it catch up to C++? They are not even in the same category of languages, other than some surface level syntax, they are as different as they get.

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