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Re:“I am literally losing sleep” over Java (1996) by fundad on Thursday January 06, 2022 @10:49AM (#29825044)
The move to server-based experiences made the Mac competitive and made iOS wildly useful despite not bundling jvm.

I think what most helped it was that it was the common language against early commercially-supported app servers from big vendors.

BSD started as a Pascal compiler for Unix and enabled a community of researchers to work with a common language on machines more accessible than those from DEC.

Bill was right that consumer-oriented products with server-side software had Java as the wind at their backs.

Re:“I am literally losing sleep” over Java (1996) by samus on Thursday January 06, 2022 @11:59AM (#29826104)
Exactly, it was the Web that threatened Microsoft. But Java is not the only player that could have dominated in the backend. Also, the backend lost its importance to the frontend, where the HTML/JavaScript/CSS (both in the browser and as Electron) stack rules.