“I am literally losing sleep” over Java (1996)

Re:“I am literally losing sleep” over Java (1996) by jpgvm on Thursday January 06, 2022 @10:23AM (#29824651)

C# isn't, it's highly successful but locked into one ecosystem. .NET Core is very new (by enterprise standards) and hasn't yet had time to supplant usecases for Java.

Go is even newer and even less successful vs Java.

Firstly it's awful in large business logic heavy programs. It's getting better with generics but it's error handling and module structure mean it's very ill-suited to the sort of software Java thrives in.

I think the only real competitor to Java (both on Android and backend/desktop) is Kotlin.

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Re:“I am literally losing sleep” over Java (1996) by vel0city on Thursday January 06, 2022 @11:54AM (#29826034)

FWIW, there is no ".NET Core" anymore. Now its all just ".NET", whether or not you're running it on Windows or Linux. Theoretically its all just the same from the application's perspective, there's no separate toolchain or library.

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Re:“I am literally losing sleep” over Java (1996) by jpgvm on Thursday January 06, 2022 @07:18PM (#29832755)

While that might be true now enterprise is still running stuff on .NET 2.X and .NET 4.X is still dominant overall.

It will be years until enterprise shops are caught up to where .NET is atm, that is just the way of things.

FWIW it's not much better in Java-land. Most enterprise shops have apps they refuse to invest in upgrading off of Java 6. Java 8 still has huge share though thankfully in the last few years Java 11 is catching on.

I like Java and C# a lot, they appeal to me above the rest of the langs for practical reasons but I don't miss distancing myself from actual enterprise development - that is where passion goes to die.

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