The cruel, ridiculous reality of 'virtual learning'

Re:The cruel, ridiculous reality of 'virtual learning' by spoonjim on Thursday January 06, 2022 @01:37AM (#29820189)

The teachers are more essential than pretty much anyone else besides doctors. They just have to show up, that's part of the deal when you take on such a big responsibility. What if doctors just stopped showing up in the middle of a pandemic? Society would be fucked. And a generation of kids is fucked because teachers weren't willing to take their responsibility seriously.

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Re:The cruel, ridiculous reality of 'virtual learning' by random314 on Thursday January 06, 2022 @01:45AM (#29820224)

Teachers compensation does not reflect the dedication and mortality risk their family should accept according to you.

You get what you pay for. Your kid is your responsibility, not your teachers. If your kid "is fucked" its because you weren't willing to take their responsibility seriously - not underpaid teachers.

Your expectation that teachers should expose their families to a pandemic for 40K pa is absurd.

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Re:The cruel, ridiculous reality of 'virtual learning' by spoonjim on Thursday January 06, 2022 @02:03AM (#29820323)

My kid is my responsibility but also we collectively pay the teachers and we don't have to keep doing this. We can just defund the entire system and make it an individual responsibility (of course as most things this would fuck over the poor kids the most). If there is a moment to crush the teachers unions it is now. California parents who normally would nod their heads at whatever garbage the union feeds them are probably primed to go Margaret Thatcher on their ass. I hope someone is organizing this; they have my vote.

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Re:The cruel, ridiculous reality of 'virtual learning' by eropple on Thursday January 06, 2022 @12:42PM (#29826794)

> we collectively pay the teachers

Poorly, in a normal environment.

Laughably, with what you are demanding they do for you.

There's a whole lot of "other people should endanger themselves for me" around this topic and it deserves some introspection.

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Re:The cruel, ridiculous reality of 'virtual learning' by nradov on Thursday January 06, 2022 @01:21PM (#29827535)

Teacher salaries vary a lot by state. Some states pay quite well relative to the US median income.

https://study.com/academy/popular/teacher-salary-by-state.ht...

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Re:The cruel, ridiculous reality of 'virtual learning' by eropple on Thursday January 06, 2022 @07:36PM (#29832947)

Great. What does that have to do with anything? No state pays teachers well relative to the opportunity cost or to the resultant workload and personal investment.

And that is in normal times. Not when rich computer-toucher randoms want them to go into COVID hotboxes Because They Said So.

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Re:The cruel, ridiculous reality of 'virtual learning' by dragonwriter on Thursday January 06, 2022 @01:51AM (#29820258)

> What if doctors just stopped showing up in the middle of a pandemic?

Yeah what if that happened in medicine and related fields:

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/physicians/more-docs-consid...

https://calmatters.org/health/coronavirus/2021/08/california...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ems-workers-retiring-higher-rat...

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