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Re:The New Apple Advantage by Anechoic on Friday September 09, 2011 @11:16PM (#2980686)
>Could we possibly, as a community, just agree that a blacklist of Gruber posts is good for us? How would we begin such a discussion?

This submittal is #1 on the front page with 110 net points. I think the community has spoken.

Re:The New Apple Advantage by socratic on Friday September 09, 2011 @11:22PM (#2980701)
You seem to have missed an earlier part of my comment. Because HN requires very high karma thresholds before enabling downvotes, net points are an extremely asymmetric measure.

However, one possible solution would be to enable downvotes, but only on controversial posts such as Gruber's. That would enable both sides of the community to speak.

How would you feel about such a measure?

EDIT: Controversial might be defined objectively as the ratio of upvotes to flags, or similar. People regularly comment on the fact that they have flagged Gruber's posts, but I presume that moderators currently just ignore such flags because the content isn't offensive, against the rules, and so on. For that matter, it would be interesting to know how many flags are currently on this post.

Re:The New Apple Advantage by Steko on Saturday September 10, 2011 @12:11AM (#2980778)
How hard is it for you to not click on something you don't want to read?

I see hundreds of posts here every day that I don't click on, some in the top 5. I don't start campaigns to censor these posts, I assume people upvote them because they find value in them. Obviously people find value in Gruber's posts if they are being upvoted.

So here's the suggestion again: don't click on it bro. Problem solved.

Re:The New Apple Advantage by bane on Saturday September 10, 2011 @12:45AM (#2980823)
It'd be better if something I did want to read was in its place.
Re:The New Apple Advantage by illumin8 on Saturday September 10, 2011 @04:17AM (#2981142)
Yeah, but you still wanted to read it badly enough that you came here to comment 3 posts deep.

It's funny how someone can hate a certain type of article so badly that they will read it and comment about how badly they hate it. I mean, why go to all the effort?

Re:The New Apple Advantage by bane on Saturday September 10, 2011 @12:26PM (#2981816)
I know right? It's like every time I see a post to daringfireball, I open it, hoping for some interesting reading -- Gruber is actually a very capable writer. And on occasion I do find something enlightening. But the rest of the time it's like a Rick Roll...with the HN collective pointing at me going, "HA! Got you!". And I guess that's gotten under my skin after a while since I can't understand why these Gruber posts are tolerated, even encouraged in some cases, while links to cats dancing or actual rick rolls are discouraged.
Re:The New Apple Advantage by Steko on Saturday September 10, 2011 @01:30AM (#2980913)
Fact: HN would cease to exist if everything a minority didn't want to see was blacklisted.
Re:The New Apple Advantage by pessimizer on Saturday September 10, 2011 @12:05PM (#2981778)
Fact: It isn't necessary for a majority to want something for it to make the top slot on HN.
Re:The New Apple Advantage by BlazingFrog on Friday September 09, 2011 @11:48PM (#2980744)
> but only on controversial posts such as Gruber's

You do realize that, by definition, "controversial" is a subjective notion, right?