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Re:Share of Income Gains by Quintile - Great Depression til Now by forensic on Friday September 09, 2011 @09:40PM (#2980496)
This is exactly the point that HN seems to be oblivious toward.

HN people live in a bubble and seemingly have never met anyone who is in real poverty -- they think because in college they had to eat Ramen they were poor. They are clueless.

Real poverty is being illiterate, being malnourished in the womb, being raised in a crime-zone, growing up without dental care.

Re:Share of Income Gains by Quintile - Great Depression til Now by OstiaAntica on Friday September 09, 2011 @10:29PM (#2980606)
This type of "Real Poverty" has massively increased since the government launched its "War on Poverty" in the 1960s. The dropout rate is higher, crime is higher, more families are broken.
Re:Share of Income Gains by Quintile - Great Depression til Now by forensic on Friday September 09, 2011 @11:06PM (#2980668)
The War on Poverty was launched in the 1930s, and before that it was the mission of various religious organizations.

The increase in the "Real Poverty" is due to economic factors like giving all the jobs to China, dumbing down education, and civil rights/feminist revolutions which led to social destabilization and people falling through cracks.

Sweden and Norway and France and Holland are not having issues with "Real Poverty." And they all have big welfare states.

The welfare state concept is sound. It lifts segments of the population in Real Poverty out of poverty. The problem in the USA is that for every social program helping a family out of poverty, there are 10 programs putting them back in their place.